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Are your religious liberties being threatened?
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Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.
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Originally posted by Spartacus View PostIn this context, it is certainly appropriate to discuss what the Supreme Court has said on the subject of religious liberty. The opinion of a single minister is hardly as important in this circumstance as the Supreme Court's opinions.
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When it's appropriate to discuss something in the context of court decisions, I do so. When it's not appropriate, I do not. Unless you've suddenly developed a penchant for mind-reading, do not presume to know what I think.
I feel...encouraged.
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Originally posted by Outis View PostIf you feel it is appropriate to discuss them, discuss them. As I am the one who made the post, I believe I am capable of deciding what _I_ feel is appropriate to include in my posts. And I believe I am quite capable to make that decision without your approval.Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.
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Originally posted by Spartacus View PostVery well. The author of the link you posted is to be ridiculed for employing straw-men with respect to the other side and for neglecting the definition of religious liberty which the Supreme Court has set forth
and you are to be ridiculed for giving even minimal approbation to the author.
And I'll be back to our more serious discussion when I can. But for the moment, I'm having fun kicking sacred cows. If your particular sacred cow got kicked, too bad.
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Originally posted by Outis View PostAre you, in turn, to be ridiculed for confusing a light-weight illustrative post with a substantive argument for a position?"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Outis View PostAre you, in turn, to be ridiculed for confusing a light-weight illustrative post with a substantive argument for a position?
I will be ridiculed regardless of what support I set forth. That happens when one side of the argument rejects the facts--it's a common method of voicing that rejection.
And I'll be back to our more serious discussion when I can. But for the moment, I'm having fun kicking sacred cows. If your particular sacred cow got kicked, too bad.
Be careful which cows you kick: some can kick back. I'm far more intellectually prepared to argue about 1st Amendment jurisprudence than about marriage-related law, so watch yourself .Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.
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Originally posted by Spartacus View PostDoes my response look substantive, or more or less proportional to the flippancy of the OP?
The question is not whether you will be ridiculed, it is whether you (or, rather, your arguments) deserve to be ridiculed.
Be careful which cows you kick: some can kick back. I'm far more intellectually prepared to argue about 1st Amendment jurisprudence than about marriage-related law, so watch yourself .
And sacred cows make the best hamburger anyway.
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Originally posted by Dee Dee Warren View PostLOL anti-discrimination laws are already opposed to the free market. You are against religious liberties and are only happy when YOUR view is mandated.
That was easy.
Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostI'm against systems stacked in favor of liberalism. Right now it's the free market when it comes to persecuting anti-liberals and anti-discrimination laws when it comes to persecuting liberals. I'd even settle for choosing one over the other and applying it consistently, but right now it's your view that is mandated, so obviously I'm not happy.
I've read the article in the OP. It's pure garbage.
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostThe free market working isn't persecution. Unless you mean persecution against bad business practices. It's nowhere near my view being mandated. The USA would be completely different.
Naturally I would prefer that anti-discrimination laws simply be abolished but if we're gonna have them they should protect the neo-nazi with a swastika tattooed on his face just as much as they protect women or blacks or gays.
You're the one picking the B answers, aren't you?"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostAnti-discrimination laws aren't free market. They also selectively protect certain people from discrimination. I can't refuse to hire someone for being black. I can, however, refuse to hire them for being "racist".
Naturally I would prefer that anti-discrimination laws simply be abolished but if we're gonna have them they should protect the neo-nazi with a swastika tattooed on his face just as much as they protect women or blacks or gays.
Having a tattoo is a choice. I don't think that should warrant a protected class.
I didn't pick any answers at all, why would I participate in a nonsensical quiz?
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Originally posted by Dee Dee Warren View PostLOL, the Constitution grants privileges for religious liberties.
Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.
Sorry you hate that so much.
As ever, Jesse
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