Doubting John: He Still Lies Today!

[Meta Knight]

It seems to me DJ can not read because we find at the top of the second link the date which is:

Friday, March 30, 2007

Get over or JPHOCD already.

There goes his credibility right out the window...

:sarcasm:

Oh no Crystal, that's soooooo hard to figure out. C'mon, Be nice.

[lilpixieofterror]

:sarcasm:

Oh no Crystal, that's soooooo hard to figure out. C'mon, Be nice.

He wants to make a rather sad attempt to do the very thing he discouraged people to do (and make rather sad excuses, then not admit to anything)... he gets what he asked for. BTW I'm snipping that smilie.

[Doubting John]

There goes DJ's credibility right out the window...

Look, I'm an atheist. With you and yours I never had any credibility to begin with. So it's not surprising you say that I don't now. In fact, you would've been honest if you had said that before this thread, because from your perspective you wouldn't believe me no matter what I said.

Like I said, technically I did not lie. Prove to me that I did.

In any case, look at Holding's credibility. He has very little of it when you consider the number of people who say so.

Let's see, compare one time when I didn't tell the whole truth (because I was under no obligation to do so), with the number of dishonest things Holding has said and done, and you judge me not to have any credibility?

There's no parity there.

I say wake up and smell the coffee. Stop idolizing Holding no matter what he does. It's gullible, and not becoming of an intelligent person.

[JardinPrayer]

Goodness! I am not usually found here either, but I wanted to add my name to the list of those who are astonished and dismayed. DJ...I beseech you...take a deep breath and a look in the mirror. You're really creating a pretty terrible picture of your character with every post. You'd have done better not to have posted in this thread at all. You're completely busted, dude. Bow out gracefully.

[Doubting John]

It seems to me DJ can not read because we find at the top of the second link the date which is:

Friday, March 30, 2007

Get over or JPHOCD already.

There goes his credibility right out the window...

Like I said, it doesn't matter when the Blog was started.

[Gideon Brown]

What if this were an elaborate prank to see if Christians are willing to extend the benefit of the doubt?

[Dee Dee Warren]

Let's see, compare one time when I didn't tell the whole truth (because I was under no obligation to do so), with the number of dishonest things Holding has said and done, and you judge me not to have any credibility?

You told a falsehood, I demonstrated so above. Please do keep weaseling, you are completely showing yourself as deceptive.

[JardinPrayer]

What if this were an elaborate prank to see if Christians are willing to extend the benefit of the doubt?

Let us pray......

[ApologiaPhoenix]

Look, I'm an atheist. With you and yours I never had any credibility to begin with. So it's not surprising you say that I don't now. In fact, you would've been honest if you had said that before this thread, because from your perspective you wouldn't believe me no matter what I said.

Oh please! This is just nonsense! There are a number of atheists on TWeb that I would love to just hang out with and chat with. Carpedm for instance. I wouldn't mind seeing Sylas. A lot of atheists are cool people. Before she converted to Christianity, Storico and I were just as close as we are now.

So I tire of this appeal to pity. It really is saddening.

Like I said, technically I did not lie. Prove to me that I did.

Technically.....Maybe a career in politics would be good.

In any case, look at Holding's credibility. He has very little of it when you consider the number of people who say so.

Argument ad populum. Hmmmm. Let's plat it also!

Consider DJ's claim that there is no God! It has very little credibility when you see all the people who disagree.

Let's see, compare one time when I didn't tell the whole truth (because I was under no obligation to do so), with the number of dishonest things Holding has said and done, and you judge me not to have any credibility?

What has he said that's so dishonest. This might seem like a shock, but when JPH does make a mistake, he admits it. I respect him for that. If I disagree with him on a statement he's made, I can email him and we'll talk it over. Such things have happened.

There's no parity there.

When a Christian on here was going on a rant against Carpedm, guess whose side I was on in defense? I'll give you a hint. It wasn't the Christian side. I'll defend my atheistic friends as much as I will my Christian friends. I won't defend their views, but I will defend them.

I say wake up and smell the coffee. Stop idolizing Holding no matter what he does. It's gullible, and not becoming of an intelligent person.

We don't idolize Holding. He's just a good friend who we respect in many areas just like he views us with respect. I don't have a golden statue of JPH enshrined in my living room. I don't own his CD and I haven't read his book yet.

Of course, you like to use guilt by association. It's cute, but it doesn't work around here.

[Dee Dee Warren]

What if this were an elaborate prank to see if Christians are willing to extend the benefit of the doubt?

There is no doubt. He lied. If a Christian would have done it, they would have lied as well.

[Teallaura]

OK, I never get involved in this kind of stuff, but the astonishment I am experiencing right now is like, pretty overwhelming. DJ is even trying to squirm out by asking that his name be removed. However, he has also told people about his book. And what does a public site like Amazon have to say about the author?

"Why I Rejected Christianity: A Former Apologist Explains by John W. Loftus"

That's why he no longer gets that consideration. We do make every effort to protect someone's anonymity when requested but not when that person refuses to protect it themselves.



On a personal note - he reviewed his own book!

[Doubting John]

Goodness! I am not usually found here either, but I wanted to add my name to the list of those who are astonished and dismayed. DJ...I beseech you...take a deep breath and a look in the mirror. You're really creating a pretty terrible picture of your character with every post. You'd have done better not to have posted in this thread at all. You're completely busted, dude. Bow out gracefully.

I really do not care what people here at a backwoods site like Tweb think of me.

I don't know any of you.

I really don't.

I do not get a fair hearing here.

I do not get a fair moderation here.

Even now, you as a moderator should be doing your job to moderate Holding's links, but rather than do that you write what you did, and you'll only moderate it after you're sure evryone sees it.

There's no fairness here.

And I do not care what you think of the Blog.

[ApologiaPhoenix]

I really do not care what people here at a backwoods site like Tweb think of me.

I don't know any of you.

I really don't.

I do not get a fair hearing here.

I do not get a fair moderation here.

Even now, you as a moderator should be doing your job to moderate Holding's links, but rather than do that you write what you did, and you'll only moderate it after you're sure evryone sees it.

There's no fairness here.

And I do not care what you think of the Blog.

[JSDileo]

Look, I'm an atheist. With you and yours I never had any credibility to begin with. So it's not surprising you say that I don't now. In fact, you would've been honest if you had said that before this thread, because from your perspective you wouldn't believe me no matter what I said.

Like I said, technically I did not lie. Prove to me that I did.

In any case, look at Holding's credibility. He has very little of it when you consider the number of people who say so.

Let's see, compare one time when I didn't tell the whole truth (because I was under no obligation to do so), with the number of dishonest things Holding has said and done, and you judge me not to have any credibility?

There's no parity there.

I say wake up and smell the coffee. Stop idolizing Holding no matter what he does. It's gullible, and not becoming of an intelligent person.

[Dee Dee Warren]

Like I said, it doesn't matter when the Blog was started.

Sure it does. To anyone who values not being deceptive.

Hey DJ, you still haven't dealt with the entirety of the context. Do you plan ahead of time how you would get out of this lie if caught? Too bad you were too sloppy to remove your name from the source code.