Does Faith Makes Us Better?

[seer]

The point is the claim that faith makes for a more moral society is false. If anything the reverse is true.

That is nonsense, you can not know that since you can not possibly adjust for all variables. Second, I can show you dozens of people that left destructive and anti social behaviors because of faith In God - including me. And that is the only way you can judge this issue - person to person.

[Tassman]

That is nonsense, you can not know that since you can not possibly adjust for all variables. Second, I can show you dozens of people that left destructive and anti social behaviors because of faith In God - including me. And that is the only way you can judge this issue - person to person.

Broadly speaking the statistics are perfectly clear, despite the exceptions at an individual level. The claim that faith makes for a more moral society is false. If anything the reverse is true.

[The Thinker]

Again I did not cherry pick anything. And is religion the driving factor in the studies you cite? Or is it economics or other cultural factors? I mean really Tass, do you think the population of Norway would become more violent if they all became devout Christians or devout Baha'is?

Sure. The most religious states in the US have the highest crime rates and the highest pornography purchases and some of the highest divorce rates.