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  • Your best life now???

    I've heard that there are people who claim you can have your best life now. Why on earth would you want that? What about eternity? Talk about failing the marshmallow test(the one where a child is offered a marshmallow and they can have another marshmallow if the refrain from eating the first marshmallow until the tester returns)! Do those people not think through that the New Creation will be millions(billions! Trillions! A Graham's number!) of times better than anything in this short life now. How could a measly few decades be the best time of a Christian's life when they have an eternity in Heaven(with glorified bodies also) with Jesus to look forward to?
    If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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    As even Paul said, it's just the logical conclusion that follows if you don't believe in life after death. 1 Corinthians 15:32.
    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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    • #3
      You saying that Joel Olsteen doesn't believe in Heaven??? Or the final resurrection?
      If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
        You saying that Joel Olsteen doesn't believe in Heaven??? Or the final resurrection?
        No, I didn't say anything about Joel Osteen.
        "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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        • #5
          Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
          No, I didn't say anything about Joel Osteen.
          I looked up the phrase on Google, and it's a title of one of that guy's books. Power of positive thinking junk with a "Christian" theme.
          If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
            No, I didn't say anything about Joel Osteen.
            He wrote the book. But he is WoF preacher, so the standard is low.


            Securely anchored to the Rock amid every storm of trial, testing or tribulation.

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            • #7
              I really like this quote by C.S. Lewis that kinda puts it into perspective:

              “It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.”

              Being fully reunited with the Lord Jesus is going to be beyond our comprehension in terms of joy and sheer awesomeness. As well, what is difficult now will be easy. What is unclear or ambiguous will be clear and understood. There are those who say that we would grow bored but they fail to understand that we will be fully transformed, changed utterly, completely remade. The physical aspect of the general resurrection of the dead will be mind-blowing indeed, but what I think will be even more phenomenal than that will be the mental and spiritual changes.
              Last edited by Paula; 02-28-2016, 08:27 PM.

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              • #8
                Just to be completely honest here, I really pay no attention to Joel Osteen. I know he's a WoF preacher with slippery doctrine, a lavish lifestyle, and a bad reputation, and that's really all I need to know.
                "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                • #9
                  The sad thing is that millions of people do pay attention to him and his ilk, and are led astray.


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                  • #10
                    Joel is so slimy looking. greasy hair and all. looks like a funeral director and acts like a used car salesman. I dont see how anyone could trust him after one look at him.

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                    • #11
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                      That's what
                      - She

                      Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                      - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                      I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                      - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                      • #12
                        Why would a Christian claim to have your best life now? How could any one with a lick of sense about the Bible and Gospel say that and still claim to be a Christian?
                        If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
                          Why would a Christian claim to have your best life now? How could any one with a lick of sense about the Bible and Gospel say that and still claim to be a Christian?
                          exactly!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Abu Njoroge View Post
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                              Moderated By: Zymologist


                              In future, please get permission before posting in this area. Thank you.

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                              No permission granted. I merely wish to discuss an aberrant idea with other Christians.
                              If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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