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  October 4th 2006 , 12:38 PM
 
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According to the Wikipedia article about Christian Reconstructionism,

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Christian Reconstructionism is a highly controversial religious and theological movement within Protestant Christianity. It calls for Christians to put their faith into action in all areas of life including civil government, and envisions, among other things, the private and civil enforcement of the general principles of Old Testament and New Testament moral law, including those expounded in the case laws and summarized in the Old Testament Decalogue.


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Howard Ahmanson, Jr. is supposedly a Christian Reconstructionist and also a board member of the Discovery Institute and the primary financer of the DI's Center for Science and Culture.

While the DI denies any link to Christian Reconstructionism (even that such a thing should exist), there are claims around the Internet that the DI-CSC really is part of a Christian fundamentalist takeover.

One thing, of course, is claims by Wikipedia articles, another thing may be the real story.

Does anyine have any information about this Christian Reconstructionism, including whether it at all exists?

Thanks in afvance for any answers.


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  October 4th 2006 , 03:00 PM
 
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Well, since my brother in law got out of prision, he's been pretty active with a group that thinks God's law must be returned to America....

Not sure what they call themselves, and if I ask, I might have to go to a meeting = p

 
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  October 4th 2006 , 03:07 PM
 
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Originally posted by FreezBee
Does anyine have any information about this Christian Reconstructionism, including whether it at all exists?

Yes, it exists; no, it is not the boogieman behind every cultural endeavor by Christians or people of faith. For an extensive list of freebooks on the subject, then checkout www.freebooks.com. Another resource is chalcedon.edu and americanvision.org (or com). These are probably the leading proponents of Christian Recostruction, which some would also label theonomy, although others would make distinctions between the two.

In short, Christian Reconstructionists view the law of Moses as binding on all nations and that Christians should work towards having all nations conform to this standard.

Is this man you mentioned a CR? I don't know, but that would simply be an ad hom and not really worth much. Why would it matter if he was? Of course, "scientists" will claim his findings biased, but their's objective. Any aspect of labelling this man a "CR" is simply to try and discredit him, playing into fears that he is like the Taliban.

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Originally posted by FreezBee
According to the Wikipedia article about Christian Reconstructionism,

Wikipedia

Christian Reconstructionism is a highly controversial religious and theological movement within Protestant Christianity. It calls for Christians to put their faith into action in all areas of life including civil government, and envisions, among other things, the private and civil enforcement of the general principles of Old Testament and New Testament moral law, including those expounded in the case laws and summarized in the Old Testament Decalogue.


© source where applicable


Howard Ahmanson, Jr. is supposedly a Christian Reconstructionist and also a board member of the Discovery Institute and the primary financer of the DI's Center for Science and Culture.

While the DI denies any link to Christian Reconstructionism (even that such a thing should exist), there are claims around the Internet that the DI-CSC really is part of a Christian fundamentalist takeover.

One thing, of course, is claims by Wikipedia articles, another thing may be the real story.

Does anyine have any information about this Christian Reconstructionism, including whether it at all exists?

Thanks in afvance for any answers.


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I think it is linked to what was known as Dominionism.

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Its most common form, Dominionism, represents one of the most extreme forms of Fundamentalist Christianity thought. Its followers, called Dominionists, are attempting to peacefully convert the laws of United States so that they match those of the Hebrew Scriptures. They intend to achieve this by using the freedom of religion in the US to train a generation of children in private Christian religious schools. Later, their graduates will be charged with the responsibility of creating a new Bible-based political, religious and social order. One of the first tasks of this order will be to eliminate religious choice and freedom. Their eventual goal is to achieve the "Kingdom of God" in which much of the world is converted to Christianity. They feel that the power of God's word will bring about this conversion. No armed force or insurrection will be needed; in fact, they believe that there will be little opposition to their plan. People will willingly accept it. All that needs to be done is to properly explain it to them.

All religious organizations, congregations etc. other than strictly Fundamentalist Christianity would be suppressed. Nonconforming Evangelical, main line and liberal Christian religious institutions would no longer be allowed to hold services, organize, proselytize, etc. Society would revert to the laws and punishments of the Hebrew Scriptures. Any person who advocated or practiced other religious beliefs outside of their home would be tried for idolatry and executed. Blasphemy, adultery and homosexual behavior would be criminalized; those found guilty would also be executed. At that time that this essay was originally written, this was the only religious movement in North America of which we were aware which advocates genocide for followers of minority religions and non-conforming members of their own religion. Since then, we have learned of two conservative Christian pastors in Texas who have advocated the execution of all Wiccans. Ralph Reed, the executive director of the conservative public policy group the Christian Coalition has criticized Reconstructionism as "an authoritarian ideology that threatens the most basic civil liberties of a free and democratic society."

It is the same idea in another suit. Religious Tolerance might help....

 
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  October 5th 2006 , 10:32 AM
 
 
 
 
Originally posted by head&heart
At that time that this essay was originally written, this was the only religious movement in North America of which we were aware which advocates genocide for followers of minority religions and non-conforming members of their own religion. Since then, we have learned of two conservative Christian pastors in Texas who have advocated the execution of all Wiccans.
This doesn't really count, Texas likes to advocate executing people = p

But if Christian Reconstructionism is alive anywhere in the US, it's Texas and the Deep South...

We didn't much like the last Reconstruction....

 
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  October 5th 2006 , 12:13 PM
 
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Originally posted by Zeluvia
Well, since my brother in law got out of prision, he's been pretty active with a group that thinks God's law must be returned to America....

Not sure what they call themselves, and if I ask, I might have to go to a meeting = p
Oh, poor you. Born-again Christians are usually the most zealous, how can we save them from themselves?


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Yes, it exists; no, it is not the boogieman behind every cultural endeavor by Christians or people of faith. For an extensive list of freebooks on the subject, then checkout www.freebooks.com. Another resource is chalcedon.edu and americanvision.org (or com). These are probably the leading proponents of Christian Recostruction, which some would also label theonomy, although others would make distinctions between the two.
Thanks for the link


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In short, Christian Reconstructionists view the law of Moses as binding on all nations and that Christians should work towards having all nations conform to this standard.
Umm, I thought that the sacrifice of Jesus released us from the law That there would be a new law inscribed in our hearts; but maybe I have been misinformed?


Originally posted by dynomite
Is this man you mentioned a CR? I don't know, but that would simply be an ad hom and not really worth much. Why would it matter if he was? Of course, "scientists" will claim his findings biased, but their's objective. Any aspect of labelling this man a "CR" is simply to try and discredit him, playing into fears that he is like the Taliban.
To some extent I agree with you. If you have some nasty name to call a person, you can ignore, what that person says. By the way, Howatd Ahmanson isn't a scientist, but I have been reading Richard Weikart's book From Darwin to Hitler, and Weikart is a DI fellow and an historian. Weikart contrasts the 'Judeo-Christian' worldview with the 'Darwinist' worldview and claims that the latter replaced the former after the publication of Darwin's Origin of Species. So I wanted to know more about, what that 'Judeo-Christian' worldview was all about.


Originally posted by head&heart
I think it is linked to what was known as Dominionism.

Quote: (link below)

Its most common form, Dominionism, represents one of the most extreme forms of Fundamentalist Christianity thought. Its followers, called Dominionists, are attempting to peacefully convert the laws of United States so that they match those of the Hebrew Scriptures. They intend to achieve this by using the freedom of religion in the US to train a generation of children in private Christian religious schools. Later, their graduates will be charged with the responsibility of creating a new Bible-based political, religious and social order. One of the first tasks of this order will be to eliminate religious choice and freedom. Their eventual goal is to achieve the "Kingdom of God" in which much of the world is converted to Christianity. They feel that the power of God's word will bring about this conversion. No armed force or insurrection will be needed; in fact, they believe that there will be little opposition to their plan. People will willingly accept it. All that needs to be done is to properly explain it to them.
Interesting, and it also fits in with my observations and with the Wedge Document. So, why is the Discivery Institute denying that this is what they are after? Isn't deceiving a pretty bad thing? If they have an agenda they think is right, they should be able to be honest about it, shouldn't they?


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In short, Christian Reconstructionists view the law of Moses as binding on all nations and that Christians should work towards having all nations conform to this standard.
Which is why you'll never see Christian Reconstructionists doing any work after sundown on Friday or all day Saturday......hypocrites...

 
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Which is why you'll never see Christian Reconstructionists doing any work after sundown on Friday or all day Saturday......hypocrites...
As far as I can tell, Friday night is for drinking and Saturday is for beating the wife and kids....

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Umm, I thought that the sacrifice of Jesus released us from the law That there would be a new law inscribed in our hearts; but maybe I have been misinformed?
Briefly, they would see the law as binding until there is something in the new that does away with it. So, you have the "ceremonial laws" done away with, but not the "moral law" and the "case law", which is an exposition or application of the "moral law", i.e. 10 Commandments. The "law" on our hearts is a reproduction of the law of Moses, so the law isn't new, but the covenant is.

 
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Which is why you'll never see Christian Reconstructionists doing any work after sundown on Friday or all day Saturday......hypocrites...
Well, it is a bit more complex than that.

 
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