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  • #46
    Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    None of you would last one minute under the sort of barrage across all the threads I am in as it has occurred today.
    wow
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
      False.



      False. I have no interest in denigrating Trump personally. My goal is to provide a push back against things he is doing that are wrong, and against those that try to hide, excuse, or otherwise dismiss the bad things he is doing.
      You really think that is how you come across?

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        wow
        My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

        If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

        This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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        • #49
          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          You really think that is how you come across?
          I know what I do rogue. The interactions here almost always go from me trying to discuss some element in the news of the day to me defending myself against personal attacks from a large group of the 'Christian' people that post here. Sometimes I handle that better than others, but the attacks are usually against me personally, not the element in the news that I am trying to discuss.
          My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

          If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

          This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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          • #50
            Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
            I know what I do rogue. The interactions here almost always go from me trying to discuss some element in the news of the day to me defending myself against personal attacks from a large group of the 'Christian' people that post here. Sometimes I handle that better than others, but the attacks are usually against me personally, not the element in the news that I am trying to discuss.
            In reality, it’s about your spin of a news event and your inability to judge anything Trump says or does through an objective lens.
            "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
            GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
              ... The buzz I'm hearing is that the IG report is going to be devastating and a "career ender" for a number of prominent politicians. I guess we'll see.
              I doubt it. It *should* be. But at this point, I never expect that Deep State swamp rats ever really get their due.
              Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

              Beige Federalist.

              Nationalist Christian.

              "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

              Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

              Proud member of the this space left blank community.

              Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.

              Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

              Justice for Matthew Perna!

              Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!

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              • #52
                Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
                I doubt it. It *should* be. But at this point, I never expect that Deep State swamp rats ever really get their due.
                I would describe my mood about the matter as hopeful but not optimistic.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • #53
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    Jim - the ONLY thing you post about is Trump - day in and day out ...
                    The only thing anyone posts about here is Trump - day in and day out.

                    Of the 20 threads on the front page of Civics:
                    - eight are explicitly about Trump and/or his impeachment[1]
                    - seven are not directly about Trump, but he's mentioned in the opening post anyway[2]
                    - two more aren't about Trump but he still gets frequent mentions[3], despite the supposed thread topic (Brexit / taxing churches)

                    Only three of the twenty threads do not quickly descend into discussions of Trump[4], and one of those is about how to deal with the whistleblower who exposed him. Even the thread about a massacre in Mexico begins with asking what Trump will do about it.

                    When Trump is the basis or referent for 80% of the threads here and rapidly becomes the topic of half the others, there is really no grounds for complaining about TDS. You might as well change the Civics tagline to "Donald duke" and move the thread on China to World History because that's a better fit.


                    [1]
                    Trump loses yet another case in court.
                    Trump Derangement Is Destroying Political Analysis
                    Whistleblower identified
                    Sondland admits quid pro quo
                    SCOOP: CIA, FBI Informant Was Washington Post Source For Russiagate Smears
                    Bidengate
                    Take This Impeachment And Shove It...
                    Trump’s Spiritual Advisor

                    [2]
                    Election results for Virginia and Kentucky
                    Blexit - Blacks Exiting the Democratic Party
                    US Family Massacred In Mexico...
                    Joe Walsh on Fox/Conservative talk shows
                    Hillary Clinton urges Dems to 'close ranks' around
                    Justice Department Distances Itself From Giuliani
                    Fox News departure: Catherine Herridge joins CBS News, saying 'facts matter'

                    [3]
                    O’Rourke: Churches Should Lose Tax-exempt Status
                    Brexit vote

                    [4]
                    ABC anchor: We had Epstein three years ago — and ABC spiked it
                    In China, every day is Kristallnacht
                    Whistleblower Laws
                    Last edited by Roy; 11-08-2019, 08:33 AM. Reason: word order wrong
                    Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

                    MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
                    MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

                    seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Roy View Post
                      The only thing anyone posts about here is Trump - day in and day out.

                      Of the 20 threads on the front page of Civics:
                      - eight are explicitly about Trump and/or his impeachment[1]
                      - seven are not directly about Trump, but he's mentioned in the opening post anyway[2]
                      - two more aren't about Trump but he still gets frequent mentions[3], despite the supposed thread topic (Brexit / taxing churches)

                      Only three of the twenty threads do not quickly descend into discussions of Trump[4], and one of those is about how to deal with the whistleblower who exposed him. Even the thread about a massacre in Mexico begins with asking what Trump will do about it.

                      When Trump is the basis or referent for 80% of the threads here and rapidly becomes the topic of half the others, there is really no grounds for complaining about TDS. You might as well change the Civics tagline to "Donald duke" and move the thread on China to World History because that's a better fit.


                      [1]
                      Trump loses yet another case in court.
                      Trump Derangement Is Destroying Political Analysis
                      Whistleblower identified
                      Sondland admits quid pro quo
                      SCOOP: CIA, FBI Informant Was Washington Post Source For Russiagate Smears
                      Bidengate
                      Take This Impeachment And Shove It...
                      Trump’s Spiritual Advisor

                      [2]
                      Election results for Virginia and Kentucky
                      Blexit - Blacks Exiting the Democratic Party
                      US Family Massacred In Mexico...
                      Joe Walsh on Fox/Conservative talk shows
                      Hillary Clinton urges Dems to 'close ranks' around
                      Justice Department Distances Itself From Giuliani
                      Fox News departure: Catherine Herridge joins CBS News, saying 'facts matter'

                      [3]
                      O’Rourke: Churches Should Lose Tax-exempt Status
                      Brexit vote

                      [4]
                      ABC anchor: We had Epstein three years ago — and ABC spiked it
                      In China, every day is Kristallnacht
                      Whistleblower Laws
                      There is a Tweb outside of Civics.
                      I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
                        There is a Tweb outside of Civics.
                        But as of late, there hasn't been much discussion there.
                        "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                          But as of late, there hasn't been much discussion there.
                          Which isn't the same as none. I think there's been some interesting discussion in a couple Christianity threads lately, that has nothing whatsoever to do with Trump.
                          I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
                            There is a Tweb outside of Civics.
                            True. But inside Civics it's all Trump, Trump, Trump.
                            Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

                            MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
                            MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

                            seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              I'm a conservative - absolutely no doubt about it ...
                              I have my doubts. Conservatives cite the Federalist Papers the way Baptists cite their sacred texts. In another age, but not so distant most of us here can't remember, Buckley, Reagan's favorite publisher, famously crusaded against the Birchers. Conservatives eschew propaganda outlets and conspiracy theorists. I can no more imagine a conservative citing the Federalist blog than a Baptist citing the Dark Bible.

                              I suppose it could happen, as part of a lesson in bad examples, but certainly not approvingly.

                              Regarding the article in the o/p, looking beyond the fetid style, there's little to favor beyond the author's equivocations between the difficulties in regaining a good reputation after losing it and losing it after it's been won, which is worth a laugh, so that's something. I'd imagine you know that's not true, or can figure it out once a more careful reader has pointed it out.

                              Lint.gif

                              But that's Hillary, a political enemy whom you've declared evil. A preacher calling someone evil should mean something more than that, I'm thinking.

                              As conservatives go, you're probably a decent preacher, poke. But when you mix your faith with politics, even your preaching is likely to come under doubt. I'm hardly the first to note this, not by millennia.
                              Others of us launch our boats out in the culture, but because we fail to adequately protect ourselves from its influence and guard ourselves against sin, we end up taking on water. Some believers simply throw up their hands in surrender without even trying to live by God’s standards. Following Christ may feel “too hard,” “too boring,” or just “too weird.” But the majority of us compromise little by little. Often we don’t even realize it’s happening. We straddle the fence over here. We give slightly in another area over there. Sometimes, we even compromise with God’s holy standards in a misguided attempt to be “relevant.”

                              You've start threads chastising the perceived dishonesties of Obama's press secretaries, but not a peep on Spicer or Sanders; and the same with Warren for discrepancies in speeches separated by decades while mocking Jim as triggered when he applies those principles to Trump and does what you too should be doing and would be doing, if your opposition was based on principle rather than party.

                              I keep telling myself you mean well.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Roy View Post
                                The only thing anyone posts about here is Trump - day in and day out.

                                Of the 20 threads on the front page of Civics:
                                - eight are explicitly about Trump and/or his impeachment[1]
                                - seven are not directly about Trump, but he's mentioned in the opening post anyway[2]
                                - two more aren't about Trump but he still gets frequent mentions[3], despite the supposed thread topic (Brexit / taxing churches)

                                Only three of the twenty threads do not quickly descend into discussions of Trump[4], and one of those is about how to deal with the whistleblower who exposed him. Even the thread about a massacre in Mexico begins with asking what Trump will do about it.

                                When Trump is the basis or referent for 80% of the threads here and rapidly becomes the topic of half the others, there is really no grounds for complaining about TDS. You might as well change the Civics tagline to "Donald duke" and move the thread on China to World History because that's a better fit.


                                [1]
                                Trump loses yet another case in court.
                                Trump Derangement Is Destroying Political Analysis
                                Whistleblower identified
                                Sondland admits quid pro quo
                                SCOOP: CIA, FBI Informant Was Washington Post Source For Russiagate Smears
                                Bidengate
                                Take This Impeachment And Shove It...
                                Trump’s Spiritual Advisor

                                [2]
                                Election results for Virginia and Kentucky
                                Blexit - Blacks Exiting the Democratic Party
                                US Family Massacred In Mexico...
                                Joe Walsh on Fox/Conservative talk shows
                                Hillary Clinton urges Dems to 'close ranks' around
                                Justice Department Distances Itself From Giuliani
                                Fox News departure: Catherine Herridge joins CBS News, saying 'facts matter'

                                [3]
                                O’Rourke: Churches Should Lose Tax-exempt Status
                                Brexit vote

                                [4]
                                ABC anchor: We had Epstein three years ago — and ABC spiked it
                                In China, every day is Kristallnacht
                                Whistleblower Laws
                                Your entire post is about Trump.
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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