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  • See the end of today's Coronavirus update conference?

    https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/stat...58986465595392

    What an embarrassment. If your child acted this way they'd be grounded before they made it out of the room. Is this really how a manly man behaves?

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    • Originally posted by DivineOb View Post
      See the end of today's Coronavirus update conference?

      https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/stat...58986465595392

      What an embarrassment. If your child acted this way they'd be grounded before they made it out of the room. Is this really how a manly man behaves?
      I saw it. Not a good look.
      The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

      I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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      • Originally posted by DivineOb View Post
        See the end of today's Coronavirus update conference?

        https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/stat...58986465595392

        What an embarrassment. If your child acted this way they'd be grounded before they made it out of the room. Is this really how a manly man behaves?
        If the 'manly man' is DT, pretty much.
        My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

        If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

        This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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        • Originally posted by DivineOb View Post
          See the end of today's Coronavirus update conference?

          https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/stat...58986465595392

          What an embarrassment. If your child acted this way they'd be grounded before they made it out of the room. Is this really how a manly man behaves?
          Such an embarrasement but no surprise. And it will come as no surprise when the Trump apologists will come to his defence pretty soon.

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          • Originally posted by Charles View Post
            Such an embarrasement but no surprise. And it will come as no surprise when the Trump apologists will come to his defence pretty soon.
            I'm sure he "showed those nasty women who's boss!"
            The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

            I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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            • Good old Gerson shares his view on Trump's recent tweets:

              Previous attempts at more conventional crisis communications failed badly, and revealingly. Recall when Trump tried to give a speech to the nation in March outlining his pandemic response. His remarks were rhetorically flat, poorly delivered, riddled with factual errors and entirely unequal to the moment.
              We have seen the complete breakdown of presidential communication on covid-19. But that, it seems, is exactly where Trump wants to be. It is better for him if the country fixates on his conspiratorial madness, rather than focusing on his utter failure and willingness to sacrifice lives.
              https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...683_story.html

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              • Trumps over the top lies concerning WHO documented.

                Source: https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/19/politics/trump-world-health-organization-lancet/index.html



                Medical journal says Trump is 'factually incorrect' about when it first published coronavirus reports

                By Veronica Stracqualursi, CNN

                Updated 11:17 AM ET, Tue May 19, 2020
                WHO fires back after Trump threatened to pull US funding

                (CNN)The prestigious medical journal The Lancet on Tuesday fact-checked President Donald Trump over an allegation he made in his letter to the World Health Organization threatening to permanently cut US funding as the world is still fighting coronavirus.

                In a letter Monday to the director-general of WHO, Trump said that his administration's review of WHO's response to the outbreak found that the organization ignored "credible reports of the virus spreading in Wuhan in early December 2019 or even earlier, including reports from the Lancet medical journal."

                "The World Health Organization failed to independently investigate credible reports that conflicted directly with the Chinese government's official accounts, even those that came from sources within Wuhan itself," he wrote.

                The Lancet, however, said Tuesday "this statement is factually incorrect" and that it "published no report in December, 2019, referring to a virus or outbreak in Wuhan or anywhere else in China."

                The Lancet said it first published reports on January 24, 2020. The first report described the first 41 patients from Wuhan, China, diagnosed with Covid-19. The Lancet noted that the lead scientists and physicians on the study were from Chinese institutions and "worked with us to quickly make information about this new epidemic outbreak and the disease it caused fully and freely available to an international audience."

                The second report, compiled by scientists and physicians from Hong Kong and mainland China, described findings that indicated person-to-person transmission of the novel coronavirus, according to The Lancet.

                In his Monday letter, Trump also said he would permanently pull US funding from the WHO if it does not "commit to major substantive improvements in the next 30 days" and if "it can actually demonstrate independence from China."

                The President's threat comes at an extraordinary time when the coronavirus pandemic has killed more than 90,000 Americans and more than 319,000 people worldwide as of Tuesday morning.

                The Lancet said that Trump's allegations against WHO are "serious and damaging to efforts to strengthen international cooperation to control this pandemic."

                It stressed that it's "essential that any review of the global response is based on a factually accurate account of what took place in December and January."

                The Lancet also published an editorial last week strongly condemning the Trump administration's "inconsistent and incoherent" response to Covid-19 and accusing the administration of undermining and minimizing the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

                © Copyright Original Source

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                • https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-January.html

                  https://www.neweurope.eu/article/ger...-19-in-january
                  That's what
                  - She

                  Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                  - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                  I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                  - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                  • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                    Trumps over the top lies concerning WHO documented.

                    Source: https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/19/politics/trump-world-health-organization-lancet/index.html



                    Medical journal says Trump is 'factually incorrect' about when it first published coronavirus reports

                    By Veronica Stracqualursi, CNN

                    Updated 11:17 AM ET, Tue May 19, 2020
                    WHO fires back after Trump threatened to pull US funding

                    (CNN)The prestigious medical journal The Lancet on Tuesday fact-checked President Donald Trump over an allegation he made in his letter to the World Health Organization threatening to permanently cut US funding as the world is still fighting coronavirus.

                    In a letter Monday to the director-general of WHO, Trump said that his administration's review of WHO's response to the outbreak found that the organization ignored "credible reports of the virus spreading in Wuhan in early December 2019 or even earlier, including reports from the Lancet medical journal."

                    "The World Health Organization failed to independently investigate credible reports that conflicted directly with the Chinese government's official accounts, even those that came from sources within Wuhan itself," he wrote.

                    The Lancet, however, said Tuesday "this statement is factually incorrect" and that it "published no report in December, 2019, referring to a virus or outbreak in Wuhan or anywhere else in China."

                    The Lancet said it first published reports on January 24, 2020. The first report described the first 41 patients from Wuhan, China, diagnosed with Covid-19. The Lancet noted that the lead scientists and physicians on the study were from Chinese institutions and "worked with us to quickly make information about this new epidemic outbreak and the disease it caused fully and freely available to an international audience."

                    The second report, compiled by scientists and physicians from Hong Kong and mainland China, described findings that indicated person-to-person transmission of the novel coronavirus, according to The Lancet.

                    In his Monday letter, Trump also said he would permanently pull US funding from the WHO if it does not "commit to major substantive improvements in the next 30 days" and if "it can actually demonstrate independence from China."

                    The President's threat comes at an extraordinary time when the coronavirus pandemic has killed more than 90,000 Americans and more than 319,000 people worldwide as of Tuesday morning.

                    The Lancet said that Trump's allegations against WHO are "serious and damaging to efforts to strengthen international cooperation to control this pandemic."

                    It stressed that it's "essential that any review of the global response is based on a factually accurate account of what took place in December and January."

                    The Lancet also published an editorial last week strongly condemning the Trump administration's "inconsistent and incoherent" response to Covid-19 and accusing the administration of undermining and minimizing the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

                    © Copyright Original Source


                    The Lancet office addresses

                    The Lancet
                    125 London Wall
                    London, EC2Y 5AS, UK

                    The Lancet
                    230 Park Avenue
                    New York, NY 10169 USA

                    The Lancet
                    Unit 1-6, 7F, Tower W1, Oriental Plaza
                    No.1, East Chang An Ave., Beijing, 100738, China

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                    • Originally posted by seanD View Post
                      How does The Lancet having an office in Beijing undermine the story?

                      Fox has a branch in Hong Kong, for example...

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                      • Originally posted by Whateverman View Post
                        How does The Lancet having an office in Beijing undermine the story?

                        Fox has a branch in Hong Kong, for example...
                        That was going to be my question...
                        The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                        I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                        • Originally posted by seanD View Post
                          I believe you need to be tested for COVID 19, or is the drool due to a stroke.

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                          • Originally posted by Whateverman View Post
                            How does The Lancet having an office in Beijing undermine the story?

                            Fox has a branch in Hong Kong, for example...
                            Presumably you first need to get properly into the conspiracy theory mindset.

                            1. Print these out
                            2. Pin them to the wall.
                            3. Circle the Chinese address in red pen
                            4. Pin a piece of red string connecting this to a map of china.

                            All will become clear to you then.

                            Any connections, however vague, always need to be made. And you should always assume that even the most minor similarities are the true secret cause of events. I'm guessing Sean must be the #1 customer for his local pins and string stockist given how much he seems to love conspiracy theories.
                            "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                            "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                            "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                            • Originally posted by Whateverman View Post
                              How does The Lancet having an office in Beijing undermine the story?

                              Fox has a branch in Hong Kong, for example...
                              Let's see if you can google search and figure out the difference between a wholly communist controlled country and Hong Kong, and then figure out the difference in running a business located right in the center of a city controlled by the PRC as opposed to a company located in Hong Kong. The latter might need just a little common sense, but it ain't that hard. I'll go easy on you since you're new. That's your homework assignment.

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                              • I have been saying, for quite a while, that Trump can be forgiven for not taking all of the actions that would have protected the U.S. in the very earliest days of the pandemic. There was a lot of confusion in that time frame with different leaders making different claims. But from the moment there was a confirmed "communal transmission" case, his failure to act in the following three weeks - his failure to even acknowledge there was a serious problem until March 16th, is unforgivable and cost U.S. lives. Now we have a study that quantifies at least part of that.

                                This report is about a study that shows that implementing social distancing even a single week earlier (never mind three weeks) would have reduced the current death toll by upwards of 36,000 deaths. If you back it up by 2 weeks, the number becomes 54,000 avoided deaths.

                                THIS is what I think we, the voters, have to hold Trump accountable for on November 3rd: More than 54,000 families grieving the loss of a loved one they need not have lost.
                                Last edited by carpedm9587; 05-21-2020, 11:55 AM.
                                The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                                I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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