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Minneapolis police chief ends negotiations with police union
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYeah, I think the "old days" of "never rat out a brother officer" are, for the most part, gone, and most cops recognized that their own credibility is on the line.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostMinneapolis police chief ends negotiations with police union
This thread is about the Minneapolis POLICE UNION, and may spill over into other POLICE UNION topics.
I know I sound like a broken record on POLICE UNIONS, but I think that's a YUGE part of reforming police departments --- apparently so does Minneapolis' Police Chief.
Minneapolis Police Chief Medaria Arradondo announced on Wednesday that he would withdraw from contract negotiations with the force’s police union in an effort to kick-start reform amid criticism over the police killing of George Floyd.
The move comes amid heightened awareness of the role police unions sometimes play in stifling reform efforts that aim to combat police brutality.
“I plan to bring in subject matter experience and advisers to conduct a thorough review of how the contract can be restructured to provide greater community transparency and more flexibility for true reform,” Arradondo said at a news conference in Minneapolis, expressing a desire to examine the department’s disciplinary process and use of force guidelines.
Arradondo also said the department would put in place systems that would allow leaders to identify early warning signs of police misconduct.
Speaking at a news conference later Wednesday, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey backed Arradondo's decision to pull out of negotiations.
"He's the right person to lead our department through a full-on cultural shift and restructure the terms of the way that our Minneapolis Police Department does business," Frey said. "Chief Arradondo's decision to withdraw from the union contract negotiations is the right one. It shows courage, it shows integrity, and he has my full support."
The police chief’s announcement followed nationwide calls for an end to racial injustice in policing sparked by the death of Floyd, a 46-year-old black man killed by a Minneapolis police officer.
On Sunday, the Minneapolis City Council announced a veto-proof majority of its members would vote to dismantle the city's police department. But Arradondo vowed the department would continue to ensure the safety of city residents until another system was in place.
"Our elected officials certainly can engage in those conversations, but until there is a robust plan that reassures the safety of our residents, I will not leave them,” Arradondo said.
Arradondo, who in 2017 became the department’s first African American leader, said race is “inextricably a part of the American policing system.”
“We will never evolve in this profession if we do not address it head on. Communities of color have paid the heaviest of costs, and that is with their lives,” Arradondo said. “And our children must be safeguarded from ever having to contribute to the horrific and shameful chapter of this country's history."
From a piece in the New Yorker[1] 'News Desk' section:
That's a little over half of the article. If you want the rest, click the link provided above.
1. A decidedly liberal publication (HERE and HERE as well)
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostSpeaking of police unions, I thought you might be interested.
From a piece in the New Yorker[1] 'News Desk' section:
That's a little over half of the article. If you want the rest, click the link provided above.
1. A decidedly liberal publication (HERE and HERE as well)The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostDidn't various unions get taken over by the mob? What happens when the police union is taken over by the mob?
Mafia/Union Ties Still Strong
It was the Teamsters Union that wanted to "organize" the Police Department where I served, but they were voted down.
The THREE officers who were trying so hard to unionize us were the classic "bad apples", and shortly thereafter, were no longer with the Department.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostDidn't various unions get taken over by the mob? What happens when the police union is taken over by the mob?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIt is very desirable for the mob to control the police unions, because the officers become incentivized to "look the other way" when the protection rackets and other organized crime operate.
Note that this is not a request to defund police. It just means that the world is not always as simple as we would like it to be.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostI heard (maybe from a city police chief's son) that certain let's call them shady people were not to be pulled over for traffic stops. The son as much, as I understand it, worked as body guard for the shady people.
More than a few times, Ron had to drive a drunk home rather than arrest him for DUI, because his name was "on the list".
Note that this is not a request to defund police. It just means that the world is not always as simple as we would like it to be.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI'm shocked. Shocked, I say.
I'd be interested if you hear anything else on this.
So, the liberals are at odds with THEMSELVES --- it's the LIBERALS who are so "Union friendly" and it's the UNIONS that prevent reform!"For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
"Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWhen I was PD, I talked to a good friend of mine about switching to the Sheriff's Office, and he told me "you don't wanna do that". He showed me a list of names of persons he was not allowed to arrest, because they were either "special donors" or "persons of influence".
More than a few times, Ron had to drive a drunk home rather than arrest him for DUI, because his name was "on the list".
Oh wait, “bad apples.” Just a few bad apples.
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Originally posted by whag View PostMaybe systemic problems like this should have been addressed earlier before anger boiled over into the streets.
Oh wait, “bad apples.” Just a few bad apples.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View PostThere is now a local group trying to defund (or at least majorly slash the budget) but they don't seem to be getting anywhere with our mayor or city council. I was a little surprised to read in the local paper that some council members were getting feedback that people didn't want changes to how the police act.
I really think it's too bad that Trump can't seem to play the winning hand that is being delivered to him on a silver platter.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by whag View PostMaybe systemic problems like this should have been addressed earlier before anger boiled over into the streets.
Oh wait, “bad apples.” Just a few bad apples."For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
"Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI'm shocked. Shocked, I say.
I'd be interested if you hear anything else on this."For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
"Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom
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