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My Reasons for Apologetics
Published by dizzle
July 31st 2003 |
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#1
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apologetics
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August 2nd 2003, 11:12 AM
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Kyle,
I completely agree with your belief that apologetics is important (hence my username), however, I would caution you on the "apologetics is more important than church.....just as important as reading the bible." I have been a Christian for about 25 years. For the vast majority of those years, I was mostly a Christian in name only. When I finally came back to the Lord, I found myself devouring apologetic literature. I understood that one of the main reasons that I had never developed a close relationship with the Lord was that I was worried about letting him control my life. I was also worried about providing the answer that 1 Peter 3:15 demands that we be ready to provide. Through apologetics, I have strengthen my faith tremendously. I am now ready to give the answer for the hope that lies within. However, as I found myself devouring the apologetic books, I found myself glancing over onto the coffee table where my Bible sat unopened. I found myself asking more and more, "what is this book on apologetics actually talking about?" The answer, of course, is the Bible! Apologetic literature is fantastic, however, it will not provide you with the relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ that it takes to remain a strong Christian through the travails of life. It is incredible that a teenager such as yourself is as turned on to apologetics as you are. I congratulate you and thank the Lord for those whom you will touch. However, what you will find as you leave home and head out into the world to find your destiny is that without the Lord standing close and without you clinging to Him, the storms of the world can easily separate you from Him. When you really get into the Bible you will understand what the writer of Hebrews meant when he wrote: Hbr 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.There is NOTHING more important to a Christian than the Bible. It is not just a book....apologetics should have taught you this abundantly by now! This is the inspired word of God, 100% inerrant. This is where we find God, where we understand our purpose, where we learn to live in a world controlled by forces set against us. I would also add that apologetics is not more important than Church. We are called to fellowship with fellow believers. As Hank Hannegraff says (I'm assuming that you are familiar with Hank) Christianity knows nothing of lone ranger Christians. It is within the body of Christ....the Church...that you will find your most valued friends and where your apologetics training will probably be of the most use, ironically enough. I applaud you in your efforts and pray that the Lord continues to fuel your fire. However, get into the Bible at least as much as you are in anything else! |
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#2
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Kyle
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August 2nd 2003, 01:47 PM
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Thanks for your comments, apologetics.
I must clarify one thing, however. I do not mean at all to trivialize the importance of reading the Bible. But I think the reason I think that apologetics are as important is that they provide us with the context FOR reading the Bible. Only once we understand the genre, context, and intended message of the Bible will we be able to fully appreciate it for what it is. Reading the Bible without knowledge of context or genre, etc, can be potentially dangerous and I think it will never be as rewarding. I think an important case in point is when I was reading through the Old Testament years ago for the first time. I had never been introduced to any apologetics of any sort- only a few sermons in church. I was taken aback by the strange customs in the OT such as sacrificing all the animals and I was troubled by the mentioning of slavery and other such practices. I remember thinking- "why don't they ever talk about these parts of the Bible in church, it's like they are picking and choosing only what they want us to hear!" Anyways, it was very troubling for me, and I may have lost my faith altogether if it were not for apologetics. In context, I realize that there were good reasons for the importance of ritual animal sacrifice in the OT, and I understand that the "slavery" referred to in the Bible is really much more like a servitude position. But without this information I would have gotten a wholly incorrect interpretation of the Word of God. Also, with the church issue- I realize that gathering with other Christians is a very important aspect of the Christian life. But one need not go to the church in order to have church- if you know what I mean! For example, I often get in long conversations about Christianity with my father and brother- and this is also a gathering of believers in fellowship. I think this kind of "church" can be as if not more fulfilling. In any case, I take your comments to heart- and I agree that I have to be careful about minimalizing the importance of such crucial aspects of the Christian life. Sincerely, Kyle. |
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#3
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spl_cadet
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August 2nd 2003, 01:55 PM
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I have to take issue with this quote:
Apologetics, in my mind, is more important than church, more important than singing hymns, and, perhaps, just as important as reading the Bible.Apologetics is not more important than church, which is the worship of God (do remember though, I'm coming from a Catholic perspective on this). Furthermore, while we are all called to worship, not everyone is called to apologetics. |
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#5
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spl_cadet
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August 2nd 2003, 02:18 PM
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Today @ 11:08 AM post located hereRemember, though I said that I'm coming from the Catholic POV. That gathering together at Mass is the worship of God. It is Heaven on Earth. Always interesting to learn something new about Protestantism though ![]() |
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#6
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Kyle
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August 2nd 2003, 02:34 PM
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Don't worry, I'm not one of those "Catholics go to Hell" types.
In fact, I would like to learn a bit more about Catholocism (spelling?). I'm checking out your site right now. (Unfortuantely, the town where I come from is heavily Protestant, and I find that there is quite a bit of bias against Catholic doctrines. But I figure they deserve a fair shot too.) |
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#7
By
apologetics
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August 2nd 2003, 06:02 PM
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Kyle,
I agree with you that apologetics give you a reference point for reading the Bible. Obviously, you need not know anything of apologetics to read the Bible from the proper perspective, but a thorough understanding of WHY the Bible exists, HOW it came into existence, and the historical accuracy of it does allow the reader a fuller experience, in my opinion. I understand what you are saying about Christians not needing to go to chruch to be Christians. However, the Church is called the Body of Christ. When we are not in church, I feel we are missing something that is vitally important. Therefore, I guess I would still have to agree that the study of apologetics is not more important than getting your tail into church. I have to commend you on your efforts. I checked out your website and was very impressed. You are quite a unique young man! While many, if not most, of the kids your age are out partying and chasing girls, it is obvious that you understand the necessity of an eternal perspective. That is quite unique in a teenager! Do you go to a Christian school or secular? How outspoken are you on your faith around your friend? I have a 5 year old son and if he turns out to be like you, I will be proud! Your parents have obviously done a fantastic job and deserve to be commended! |
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#8
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rocket
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August 4th 2003, 08:48 PM
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B.S. all of it...
To claim that Atheists don't believe because they "don't understand the issues" is cake iceing over a pile of horse crap...I was a christian once and walked away from it because Christians are so wrapped up in religious dogma they can't get a handle on reality...I was sick of it!!! And articles like this one serve to prove my point, to assume that someone is an Atheist because they don't "understand" is ludicrous and hypicritcal...nice article though...
Allen |
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#11
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Pate
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August 5th 2003, 03:36 PM
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Re: B.S. all of it...
Today @ 01:48 AM post located hereI don't want to draw any unwarranted conclusions about you, based on just one comment, but I have to say that your previous post does more to confirm than to disconfirm the view that you don't understand the issues. The central issue should not be whether or not many Christians are wrapped up in their dogma and have a somewhat distorted view of reality. The central issue should be whether or not Christianity is true. I don't agree that all atheists don't believe because they don't understand the issues and I don't even want to claim that this is what's going on in your atheism, but I do know atheists who don't have a clue when it comes to issues of rationally justifying their views. |
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#12
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Pate
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August 5th 2003, 03:39 PM
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Today @ 08:24 PM post located hereThat's clearly false. Many things are true but not absolutely proven. |
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#13
By
apologetics
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August 6th 2003, 11:04 PM
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huh?
Originally posted by USArmy770:
If Atheists need to be convinced of the truth through logic, then I invite you to convince me. Just keep in mind that nothing is true unless absolutely proven as fact. Meet me in the gym.Huh? "Nothing is true unless absolutely proven as fact"??? Epistemologically speaking, this is an untenable statement. There are many things that true without having to be empirically justified. The entire field of theoretical physics works off of this premise. Since you cannot prove that God does NOT exist, by your own words it would be ludacrious to maintain an atheistic belief system. Many philosophers have maintained that one cannot even believe in the existence of the external world since the world you are experiencing could really just be the construct of an evil demon. Can you prove your own existence? Can you prove that all of your beliefs are epistemologically coherent? I would invite you into a discussion on the philosophical issues surrounding truth. I assume that you would find it at least enlightening. |
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#14
By
Lazy Agnostic
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August 11th 2003, 01:15 AM
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Kyle,
The balance of Creation (and your salvation) doesn't depend upon your ability to accurately describe it at any given moment. There are ego traps attendant to apologetics and the sharpening of precocious wits---at the expense of wisdom. The people who seem most-edified by their faith----from disparate faiths and disciplines---are those who, at somepoint and some degree, learn to gently push aside ego/ordinary thoughts. Faith isn't manifested in esoteric pedantic yakking and public displays of piety and all other sorts of wearing it on one's sleeve. It's manifested in each of our daily interactions. Imagine that everyone you see could be Jesus-in-disguise; find some way to convey a silent little "Hello in there, You." Then learn apologetics. Then learn that apologetics consists largely of irrelevant commentary and is too often no more edifying than a hobby. Don't be afraid to momentarily step outside cherished notions; there is nothing from which you cannot return---except perhaps wisdom. |
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#15
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Socrates
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August 11th 2003, 12:40 PM
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08-06-2003 @ 06:24 AM post located hereProve that then! |