The Mueller Report

[Tassman]

We can always count on you to desperately reach for the genetic fallacy when you can't dispute the facts of a story.

The "facts" of this story, are on a par with those you quoted with a straight face concerning Hillary during the election. Your source of "facts", The Gateway Pundit, is just the National Enquirer minus sensational pictures.

“The Enquirer spent many weeks in the months in the run-up to the 2016 election bashing Clinton. She had everything from lung cancer to a husband with a teen sex ring”. “The tabloid’s coverage trashed Clinton for weight gain, claimed that she had six months to live, and asserted she had blackmailed the FBI”.

https://qz.com/1369399/david-peckers...to-help-trump/

When your “dirty cop Mueller”was appointed Special Counsel he was hailed by both parties as "a straight-shooting prosecutor”. Now we have the usual Trumpian lying personal attacks because Mueller's Report said negative things about Trump. It’s despicable and you just go along with it.

[rogue06]

It's hard to win with a "nice guy" campaign when the opposing party uses every dirty trick in the book.

Mitt Romney being the most recent example.

[rogue06]

Assuming one exists, I would seriously consider voting for him/her. The Democrat platform of late admittedly makes that difficult.

Not to mention how most of the candidates are stampeding each other trying to get the furthest to the left. And then there is their constituency which recently started to continuously boo a candidate (former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper ) who had the temerity to say that socialism isn't the answer^[1] at a Democratic convention in California.





1. and yet the MSM is trying to convince us that "socialism" is nothing more than a right wing meme

[Mountain Man]

The "facts" of this story, are on a par with those you quoted with a straight face concerning Hillary during the election. Your source of "facts", The Gateway Pundit, is just the National Enquirer minus sensational pictures.

“The Enquirer spent many weeks in the months in the run-up to the 2016 election bashing Clinton. She had everything from lung cancer to a husband with a teen sex ring”. “The tabloid’s coverage trashed Clinton for weight gain, claimed that she had six months to live, and asserted she had blackmailed the FBI”.

https://qz.com/1369399/david-peckers...to-help-trump/

When your “dirty cop Mueller”was appointed Special Counsel he was hailed by both parties as "a straight-shooting prosecutor”. Now we have the usual Trumpian lying personal attacks because Mueller's Report said negative things about Trump. It’s despicable and you just go along with it.

Sorry, kiddo, but the story I linked to is full of well documented facts about the many scandals that happened while Mueller was director of the FBI and cites a wide variety of sources across the political spectrum, from Breitbart to Forbes to CNN. See if you can actually dispute the facts instead of crying about the source.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...-fbi-director/

Really, I'm not sure why you launched into a criticism of the Enquirer when it has nothing whatsoever to do with the Gateway Pundit story.

[lilpixieofterror]

Sorry, kiddo, but the story I linked to is full of well documented facts about the many scandals that happened while Mueller was director of the FBI and cites a wide variety of sources across the political spectrum, from Breitbart to Forbes to CNN. See if you can actually dispute the facts instead of crying about the source.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...-fbi-director/

Really, I'm not sure why you launched into a criticism of the Enquirer when it has nothing whatsoever to do with the Gateway Pundit story.

Muller’s mishandling of the anthrax mailer is a great example of how bad he did his job.

[One Bad Pig]

You need to look in the mirror. You and most others here do not discuss any points with me without first attacking me personally. I rarely am able to focus on what the arguments are for or against any position because as soon as i nention something I think is wrong with Dohald Trump, every post that follows contains at least one comment about what that person thinks is wrong with me. Not one of you has a clue how to discuss any point I make about Donald trump without first making at least one but often multiple derogatory comments about me.

This is the cycle.

I point out a problem i see with trump to one person in one post.

At least two of you attack me personally with some non zero probability youll add something productive in the mix.

Then, if I ignore your personal attacks and just respond to whatever content was there, you just continue to add more personal attacks.

If i respond in kind, you then wonder off with yet more personal attacks, and add that I am too unreasonable to have a conversation with.

It is virtually impossible for me to have any reasoned conversation with any of you. You simply will not allow it.


I dare one of you to go three posts with me without insulting me. If you do, youll see nothing derogatory against you personally will be in any of my responses.

Jim

Stop misinterpreting criticism as insult, and it's a deal. When you say something clearly unhinged from reality, I will call you on it, if I bother to say anything. You do it a lot; I can't help that. Perhaps if you stopped trying to shift the blame anywhere but yourself, you'd be able to see that.

[oxmixmudd]

Stop misinterpreting criticism as insult, and it's a deal. When you say something clearly unhinged from reality, I will call you on it, if I bother to say anything. You do it a lot; I can't help that. Perhaps if you stopped trying to shift the blame anywhere but yourself, you'd be able to see that.

And again you attack me, not the actual ideas I propose. Criticism of an idea is fine. "You are unhinged from reality" is not criticism of an idea. It is a criticism of me. "That idea is unhinged from reality" would be an opinion about the idea. When is the last time I told you that you were unhinged from reality. Or that you were mentally ill because the ideas you hold differ from my own? Do you not understand the difference between ad hominem which focuses attention on what is wrong with the person and actual debate of an idea?

You can call out an idea without calling out the person. None of you seem aware of that, and in fact, you are blatantly hypocritical about it. You have not the slightest concern about saying the most vile things about me the person while if I even hint that one of you is not a perfectly sane upstanding person you go completely ballistic.

I hope each of you has to deal with what I've dealt with from you. You have no clue - not one.

This website, this forum, represents the bottom of the barrel when it comes to Christians beating up on one another. It's like you took Galations 5 and decided to turn it on its head, day in and day out. And it doesn't matter if the target of your putrid bile is Christian or non-Christian. Everyone gets the same treatment if they dare to think differently from you. As far as I am concerned, the only person you treat worse is JimL, and I have no clue why he bothers to interact with you at all.

Jim

[Adrift]

It's hard to win with a "nice guy" campaign when the opposing party uses every dirty trick in the book. The question is, at what are we just fighting evil with evil and we should accept that the country is lost?

Fighting evil with evil might get you wins short term, but long term it's a losing strategy, especially for Christians. If Christianity is to have any draw, any purchase in a world that's increasingly dark then it needs to provide an alternative to the world's strategies and ways of doing things. People need to know that Christians are different, and Christianity is different from "politics as usual." And ultimately, God has a funny way of turning things on their head, making the impossible possible. The last first, and the first last and all that.

[Adrift]

And again you attack me, not the actual ideas I propose. Criticism of an idea is fine. "You are unhinged from reality" is not criticism of an idea. It is a criticism of me. "That idea is unhinged from reality" would be an opinion about the idea. When is the last time I told you that you were unhinged from reality. Or that you were mentally ill because the ideas you hold differ from my own? Do you not understand the difference between ad hominem which focuses attention on what is wrong with the person and actual debate of an idea?

You can call out an idea without calling out the person. None of you seem aware of that, and in fact, you are blatantly hypocritical about it. You have not the slightest concern about saying the most vile things about me the person while if I even hint that one of you is not a perfectly sane upstanding person you go completely ballistic.

I hope each of you has to deal with what I've dealt with from you. You have no clue - not one.

Jim

To be fair, OBP didn't say "You are unhinged," he said "When you say something clearly unhinged....," which can be construed as him referring to your ideas, and not you personally.

[oxmixmudd]

To be fair, OBP didn't say "You are unhinged," he said "When you say something clearly unhinged....," which can be construed as him referring to your ideas, and not you personally.

There is no fair. There are no friends. This site has nothing to offer anyone with ideas different from the 'in club' than hatred and bile. It is just another in a long list of social media sites where the members have allowed themselves to be stripped of their humanity and where they see others as objects devoid of humanity that they can interact with without even one ounce of compassion or mercy.

Jim

[One Bad Pig]

There is no fair. There are no friends. This site has nothing to offer anyone with ideas different from the 'in club' than hatred and bile. It is just another in a long list of social media sites where the members have allowed themselves to be stripped of their humanity and where they see others as objects devoid of humanity that they can interact with without even one ounce of compassion or mercy.

Jim

Jim, I feel incredibly sad for you. If you feel that way, I don't understand why you post here.

[Cow Poke]

There is no fair. There are no friends. This site has nothing to offer anyone with ideas different from the 'in club' than hatred and bile. It is just another in a long list of social media sites where the members have allowed themselves to be stripped of their humanity and where they see others as objects devoid of humanity that they can interact with without even one ounce of compassion or mercy.

Jim

wow

[Mountain Man]

There is no fair. There are no friends. This site has nothing to offer anyone with ideas different from the 'in club' than hatred and bile. It is just another in a long list of social media sites where the members have allowed themselves to be stripped of their humanity and where they see others as objects devoid of humanity that they can interact with without even one ounce of compassion or mercy.

Jim

This is the old "It's not me, it's everybody else!" routine.

[oxmixmudd]

Jim, I feel incredibly sad for you. If you feel that way, I don't understand why you post here.

No - you don't feel incredibly sad for me. You despise me and feel nothing but disdain for me. Please speak the truth.

Jim

[oxmixmudd]

Indeed. Pot meeting kettle, big time.

and yet more disdain and hatred. It's all you have.


Jim