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Hypothetical. All guns dissapear. What happens?
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Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThe goalposts haven't moved, they're sitting right where they've always been: If ready availability of guns is the problem then why don't all areas of the country where guns are readily available have high crime rates?
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Originally posted by Adrift View Post"....no one is arguing that guns make people more criminally inclined...the argument is that in places that see violent crime, guns make that crime more lethal."Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Australia is an interesting case study. Assuming Wikipedia is correct, there were as many murders that left three or more dead in the 20-years before guns were banned as there were in the 20-years after guns were banned. It's just that in the post-ban crimes, the murderers resorted to knives, vehicles, and even arson. And if you exclude the anomalous Port Arthur massacre, the number of people killed isn't significantly different.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...oldformat=trueSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostNo one is arguing that. What they're arguing is that guns are MORE lethal.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostExcept as other countries have proven, you take away guns, people simply find other means to kill each other.
FYI: I'm not for banning guns.
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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostTrue, though massacres by psychopaths are nowhere near large a scale, and crime becomes less easy for criminals.
FYI: I'm not for banning guns.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAs we've discussed before, it really depends on the scenario. If I get stabbed in the throat, I'll die just as readily as if I were shot in the throat.
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I'm a gun rights proponent, and gun owner, but I'd have to admit that I could do more damage more quickly with my newly purchased AR-15 in a large room full of people, particularly if I were standing 20 to 30 feet away. This assumes, of course, that none of my targets are armed.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostHow does crime "become less easy for criminals"? Is this on the assumption that all guns are magically 'disappeared'?
Not sure how my post relates to guns being vanished.
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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostRobbing a person with a gun gives someone the power to kill another with the pull of a trigger, while a knife makes that same action a lot harder.
Not sure how my post relates to guns being vanished.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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