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    Bernie Sanders Is The Front-Runner
    Put simply, the model now puts Sanders in a modestly stronger position across the board. His chances of winning rose in a bunch of states. As always in the wake of a caucus or primary, treat the forecast as a bit of an educated guess until we get more polls — the model will quickly update if new polling differs from what it expects. But the picture here isn’t all that fuzzy — Sanders is the front-runner in a race that remains extremely fluid.

    Recently demoted to second place, my popcorn money is on ...

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    It's way too early to say much, but there's one thing we can't say anymore. Bernie is not a fringe candidate.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Juvenal View Post

    It's way too early to say much, but there's one thing we can't say anymore. Bernie is not a fringe candidate.
    I didn't think he was fringe candidate in the last election cycle, he nearly brought Hillary down.
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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    • #3
      As said as it is to contemplate, America is at a point where a candidate who espouses a failed political ideology could actually become president.
      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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      • #4
        Originally posted by seer View Post
        I didn't think he was fringe candidate in the last election cycle, he nearly brought Hillary down.
        I didn't think he had a serious chance of winning then, even before knowing what we know how about the deck being stacked.

        But I agree he was close enough that "fringe" wasn't an appropriate label then. Hillary's camp certainly took him seriously.
        "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
          As said as it is to contemplate, America is at a point where a candidate who espouses a failed political ideology could actually become president.
          Tell that to Denmark. Democratic socialism is an economic policy, a market based economy, not a political ideology. Sort of like what we have here in the U.S. except that it takes the "general welfare" into more consideration than the U.S. currently does. Without such social policies the wealth gap will just continue to grow until you end up with an oligarchy.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by JimL View Post
            Tell that to Denmark. Democratic socialism is an economic policy, a market based economy, not a political ideology. Sort of like what we have here in the U.S. except that it takes the "general welfare" into more consideration than the U.S. currently does. Without such social policies the wealth gap will just continue to grow until you end up with an oligarchy.
            the wealth gap will just increase as more people become poor.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by JimL View Post
              Tell that to Denmark. Democratic socialism is an economic policy, a market based economy, not a political ideology. Sort of like what we have here in the U.S. except that it takes the "general welfare" into more consideration than the U.S. currently does. Without such social policies the wealth gap will just continue to grow until you end up with an oligarchy.
              Yes Western Europe can afford that since we, for decades, defended them from Soviet aggression. And in the future Russian aggression.
              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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              • #8
                Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                I didn't think he had a serious chance of winning then, even before knowing what we know how about the deck being stacked.
                The claims of decks stacked against Bernie didn't withstand scrutiny. There were a couple of disapproving emails, without linkage to any disadvantageous action. To the contrary, he was the recipient of highly biased support from the Russians. We wouldn't be talking about those DNC emails if the Russians hadn't hacked them.

                They're supporting him again, as well as Trump, in 2020.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
                  The claims of decks stacked against Bernie didn't withstand scrutiny. There were a couple of disapproving emails, without linkage to any disadvantageous action. To the contrary, he was the recipient of highly biased support from the Russians. We wouldn't be talking about those DNC emails if the Russians hadn't hacked them.

                  They're supporting him again, as well as Trump, in 2020.
                  Sanders, I can see. Trump, not so much; Russians like to support the underdog, and that's not especially Trump this time around. His energy policy is doing the Russian economy no favors, as heavily dependent as it is on oil revenue, and there's no anti-Hillary grudge to further this time.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JimL View Post
                    Tell that to Denmark. Democratic socialism is an economic policy, a market based economy, not a political ideology. Sort of like what we have here in the U.S. except that it takes the "general welfare" into more consideration than the U.S. currently does. Without such social policies the wealth gap will just continue to grow until you end up with an oligarchy.
                    a Denmark citizen begs to differ with you JimL it may be a welfare state but it is not socialist.
                    Last edited by RumTumTugger; 02-24-2020, 12:56 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JimL View Post
                      Tell that to Denmark. Democratic socialism is an economic policy, a market based economy, not a political ideology. Sort of like what we have here in the U.S. except that it takes the "general welfare" into more consideration than the U.S. currently does. Without such social policies the wealth gap will just continue to grow until you end up with an oligarchy.
                      A market based economy is NOT economic socialism.
                      Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

                      Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RumTumTugger View Post
                        a Denmark citizen begs to differ with you JimL it may be a welfare state but it is not socialist.
                        Moreover what Sanders has been proposing isn't what you see in Denmark. For instance, I've heard that the corporate tax rate that he wants is something like nearly 60% higher than what we see in Denmark. In fact it's pretty much the same as what we see in Cuba (a country that Sanders has long praised and been enamored with).

                        Sanders has very little in common with the genteel European Social Democrats, but has far more in common with the radical Socialist/Communists.

                        I'm always still in trouble again

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by seer View Post
                          I didn't think he was fringe candidate in the last election cycle, he nearly brought Hillary down.
                          He's just more open and hence honest about what he wants than most Democrats.

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
                            The claims of decks stacked against Bernie didn't withstand scrutiny. There were a couple of disapproving emails, without linkage to any disadvantageous action. To the contrary, he was the recipient of highly biased support from the Russians. We wouldn't be talking about those DNC emails if the Russians hadn't hacked them.

                            They're supporting him again, as well as Trump, in 2020.
                            Both the Washington Post and CNN were privy to the same "reports" as was the New York Times which claimed that the Rooskies are backing Trump. Neither of them saw a whole lot of evidence for this support with WaPo being the ones to break the news about their support for Sanders (why did the NYT underplay or even ignore this?) and Jake Tapper of CNN even came straight out and said that the Times reporting was largely full of... um, El Toro poopoo.

                            I'm always still in trouble again

                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              Moreover what Sanders has been proposing isn't what you see in Denmark. For instance, I've heard that the corporate tax rate that he wants is something like nearly 60% higher than what we see in Denmark. In fact it's pretty much the same as what we see in Cuba (a country that Sanders has long praised and been enamored with).

                              Sanders has very little in common with the genteel European Social Democrats, but has far more in common with the radical Socialist/Communists.
                              Denmark has no minimum wage! Capitalist pigs!
                              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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