Trump Derangement Is Destroying Political Analysis

[Cow Poke]

Trump Derangement Is Destroying Political Analysis

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[firstfloor]

[Cow Poke]

I love you, too, ff. And Molly is smarter than Rachel, and doesn't appear to be on speed*.




*CP does not believe or suggest that Rachel is actually on speed, but it's possible she needs to switch to decaf.

[oxmixmudd]

Trump Derangement Is Destroying Political Analysis

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For someone that is not 'for' Donald Trump, you sure do post a large number of things that support him and denigrate those that are offended by his lawlessness and general trashy behavior.

[Cow Poke]

For someone that is not 'for' Donald Trump, you sure do post a large number of things that support him and denigrate those that are offended by his lawlessness and general trashy behavior.

Ah... there it is again. Because I'm not totally obsessed and consumed with Trump, Jim, railing on him every chance I get, I absolutely must be "for" him.

There are two sides to every story, and you daily, hourly, relentlessly pound on one side.

I'm a conservative - absolutely no doubt about it - and I don't hate Trump, and things are in motion to deal with him without me pitching a wall-eyed fit against with every single post I post.

My job is to pray for him, and I do that quite often.

[Cow Poke]

For someone that is not 'for' Donald Trump, you sure do post a large number of things that support him and denigrate those that are offended by his lawlessness and general trashy behavior.

So, I read this article again, slowly and carefully.

Now that you have used it to attack my character*, could you please take some time to point out how this article "supports Trump"?
For extra credit, which part(s) "denigrates" those who are "offended" by his "lawlessness and general trashy behavior**".




*but, it's OK, I've pretty well come to expect this
** I'm quite often offended by his trashy behavior, I'm still waiting for the evidence of his lawlessness

[oxmixmudd]

So, I read this article again, slowly and carefully.

Now that you have used it to attack my character*, could you please take some time to point out how this article "supports Trump"?
For extra credit, which part(s) "denigrates" those who are "offended" by his "lawlessness and general trashy behavior**".




*but, it's OK, I've pretty well come to expect this
** I'm quite often offended by his trashy behavior, I'm still waiting for the evidence of his lawlessness

By making a mockery of those that oppose him (by dissmissing their protests as evidence of mental illness) the article both supports Trump and denigrates his critics. Or is that to complicated for you to grasp?

There is no such thing as "Trump Derangement". What exists are people with integrity that are offended by Trumps behavior and actions to the point they are willing to say so.

The reality is that the issues I and others raise against Trump are legitimate issues. Yet you and others play the "TDS" game to give yourselves the excuse to ignore the problems. That is supporting Trump. It means that you are willing to dismiss legitimate issues on his behalf. The objective person does not dismiss real problems. Nor do the resort to calling people that raise those issues insane.

[oxmixmudd]

Ah... there it is again. Because I'm not totally obsessed and consumed with Trump, Jim, railing on him every chance I get, I absolutely must be "for" him.

Stop lying about me CP. That is not where I hail from, and you know it. And your posts offer SUPPORT for Trump almost continuously - which is in conflict with your stated position on him.

[Cow Poke]

By making a mockery of those that oppose him, you support him. Or is that to complicated for you to grasp?

OK, so how, exactly, do I make a "mockery" of those who oppose him? And where is this little nugget of wisdom written down.

The reality is that the issues I and others raise against Trump are legitimate issues.

You do raise some legitimate issues, Jim, but even a blind hog...

Yet you and others play the "TDS" game to give yourselves the excuse to ignore the problems.

Absolutely false. And this kind of crap is exactly why you earn the "TDS" label. It is NOT true that I ignore "the problems" - I simply don't go wall-to-wall railing against Trump day in and day out...

Sorry, that is supporting Trump.

In your mind, with your absolute obsession, I can see why you would believe that.

It means that you are willing to dismiss legitimate issues on his behalf.

I'm going to be polite, and not accuse you of being a liar, because I believe that in your obsession with Trump, you actually believe that in your head.

That is supporting Trump. The objective person does not dismiss real problems.

Jim, at this point, you're hardly the one to determine what is "objective".

Here are some things for you to totally ignore about I believe....

• Trump could not have become President without God allowing it. God is sovereign.
• Am I saying God "selected" Trump? Absolutely no way.
• It is a Biblical mandate for me to pray for those in authority over us -- I do, every day, often more than a couple times a day.
• There is an incredible unified effort among the liberals to get rid of Trump - I'm anxious for this to get into the open - open hearings, public testimony - and for the process to play out. They don't need me spending every waking moment repeating every bit of gossip, rumor, innuendo, accusation.... it's all out there, Jim.

So, look what's happening --- because I'm not as obsessed with Trump as you are, I'm a bad guy.

That's truly sad.

[Cow Poke]

Stop lying about me CP.

Wow

That is not where I hail from, and you know it.

Jim - the ONLY thing you post about is Trump - day in and day out - and you pretty much repeat every rumor, gossip, accusation... So, no, I DON'T "know it" -- the evidence is all over this board that you are singularly focused on Trump.

What I do "know" is that you don't seem to be the same person I've known from the past.

And your posts offer SUPPORT for Trump almost continuously - which is in conflict with your stated position on him.

If by "SUPPORT", you mean I haven't already pronounced a guilty verdict before the trial, I suppose you could manage to twist my position that much.

Again....

• Trump could not have become President without God allowing it. God is sovereign.
• Am I saying God "selected" Trump? Absolutely no way.
• It is a Biblical mandate for me to pray for those in authority over us -- I do, every day, often more than a couple times a day.
• There is an incredible unified effort among the liberals to get rid of Trump - I'm anxious for this to get into the open - open hearings, public testimony - and for the process to play out. They don't need me spending every waking moment repeating every bit of gossip, rumor, innuendo, accusation.... it's all out there, Jim.

[Mountain Man]

Allow me to mediate:

If you agree to stop quoting Rachael Maddow and Lawfare, then I will appeal to Cow Poke to stop quoting The Federalist.

Deal?

[Cow Poke]

Stop lying about me CP.

I'm going to be polite, and not accuse you of being a liar, because I believe that in your obsession with Trump, you actually believe that in your head.

See the difference?

I'm not going to report this false accusation of lying on your part, Jim, because, like I said, I believe that, in your head, you probably believe I'm a liar.

What absolutely amazes me is how you allow Satan to use Trump cause such division as to have you at war with the brethren. He's not worth it, and his day is coming.



(for clarity, my quote above is not intended to be represented as a response to Jim's quote - just a comparison of the two approaches)

[Cow Poke]

Allow me to mediate:

If you agree to stop quoting Rachael Maddow and Lawfare, then I will appeal to Cow Poke to stop quoting The Federalist.

Deal?

I might actually sign on to that treaty!

[Cow Poke]

Now, could somebody please take a deep breath and point out anything in the article that is not true?

[oxmixmudd]

See the difference?

I'm not going to report this false accusation of lying on your part, Jim, because, like I said, I believe that, in your head, you probably believe I'm a liar.

What absolutely amazes me is how you allow Satan to use Trump cause such division as to have you at war with the brethren. He's not worth it, and his day is coming.



(for clarity, my quote above is not intended to be represented as a response to Jim's quote - just a comparison of the two approaches)

Ah... there it is again. Because I'm not totally obsessed and consumed with Trump, Jim, railing on him every chance I get, I absolutely must be "for" him.

That statement is a lie. It is not the truth. And I don't believe that you actually believe it to be true. I think you are just annoyed at my comments and want to attack me for making those comments. but regardless, there is nothing in that statement that is going to encourage peace, or keep the peace. It is an attack on me.

Now - if you are actually concerned about 'peace' around here, you will stop doing that sort of thing.