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North Carolina Voting - and Consistency
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThey're essentially the same as a Driver's License which includes two holograms (I think that's the right word) of your picture
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI would hope it's some kind of fancier badge maker with maybe a hologram imprint or something.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThat's what I'm calling them!
I'm always still in trouble again
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThey're essentially the same as a Driver's License which includes two holograms (I think that's the right word) of your picture
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postwell as a former graphic designer, I can do it anyway using my home computer. But if you had access to the official blanks and the machine they can take to your home, you could make OFFICIAL fake IDs that can't be detected as fraudulent.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYeah, if somebody's going to risk jail by going to THAT much trouble, we have a bigger problem on our hands than just stuffing ballots.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYeah, if somebody's going to risk jail by going to THAT much trouble, we have a bigger problem on our hands than just stuffing ballots.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI think I may have it wrong. I was thinking they made the ID at your house. but maybe they just come take your photo and info and then make the ID at the office.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYeah, I'd think that would be the case -- and since they've BEEN to your house, that part is also validated better than simply mailing it in. Nothing is foolproof to the sufficiently motivated fool.
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Republican election fraud in North Carolina
There appears to have been serious electoral fraud in North Carolina district 9 in the midterms.
It appears a paid Republican consultant and his workers:
- Went around collecting absentee ballots (illegal in and of itself)
- Disposed of those of the ballots that weren't for the republican candidate, or literally crossed out the vote for the democratic candidate and wrote in a vote for the republican candidate
- Used unfilled-out ballots to cast additional votes for the republican candidate
It appears the Republican consultant behind this electoral fraud may have been doing it for as long as 8 years, and evidence suggests he also did it in the republican primary this year and that during the primary this criminal behavior was reported to the North Carolina GOP who did nothing about it. It is, at this stage, unclear whether the Republican candidate himself (a local pastor) was aware of the crimes being perpetrated to benefit him by his paid consultant in both the primary and general election.
The investigation is ongoing but I would anticipate multiple people will go to jail as a result.
The margin of victory was reasonably small in the general election (~900 votes) and this seems to be about the order of magnitude of the number of votes that were manipulated by the criminals, thus the outcome of the election is completely in doubt. The local board of elections has the power to choose to re-run the election which they are talking about doing, if the ongoing investigation continues to find serious issues. Congress itself also has the power to declare the election outcome invalid (if the local board doesn't) which it is also talking about doing.
It's also worth noting that the Voter ID laws typically proposed by Republicans would not have stopped this method of electoral fraud.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostThere appears to have been serious electoral fraud in North Carolina district 9 in the midterms.
It appears a paid Republican consultant and his workers:
- Went around collecting absentee ballots (illegal in and of itself)
- Disposed of those of the ballots that weren't for the republican candidate, or literally crossed out the vote for the democratic candidate and wrote in a vote for the republican candidate
- Used unfilled-out ballots to cast additional votes for the republican candidate
It appears the Republican consultant behind this electoral fraud may have been doing it for as long as 8 years, and evidence suggests he also did it in the republican primary this year and that during the primary this criminal behavior was reported to the North Carolina GOP who did nothing about it. It is, at this stage, unclear whether the Republican candidate himself (a local pastor) was aware of the crimes being perpetrated to benefit him by his paid consultant in both the primary and general election.
The investigation is ongoing but I would anticipate multiple people will go to jail as a result.
The margin of victory was reasonably small in the general election (~900 votes) and this seems to be about the order of magnitude of the number of votes that were manipulated by the criminals, thus the outcome of the election is completely in doubt. The local board of elections has the power to choose to re-run the election which they are talking about doing, if the ongoing investigation continues to find serious issues. Congress itself also has the power to declare the election outcome invalid (if the local board doesn't) which it is also talking about doing.
It's also worth noting that the Voter ID laws typically proposed by Republicans would not have stopped this method of electoral fraud.
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Yeah, it's being discussed here:
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...nd-Consistency
Nobody seems to know exactly what happened, or whether or not it affected the election. We'll have to wait for the facts to be made known.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
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Well now that Starlight and JimL have joined us...
What about the oft-repeated claim that there is no such thing as voter fraud? Now all of a sudden it is a problem because a Republican seems to be behind it, but all those cases where democrats were committing fraud it was just something small and aberrant and made no difference in the election, or was just an invention by conservatives?
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWell now that Starlight and JimL have joined us...
What about the oft-repeated claim that there is no such thing as voter fraud?Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostThis isn't voter fraud, since it wasn't the voters doing it. This is election campaign fraud.
Thank you Mr. Nitpicker, but it is the same thing we have brought up in the Florida Elections just recently and in the Presidential Election of 2016, in which we were told over and over that there is no such thing as "Voter/Election Fraud" - it is just something Republicans came up with because they don't like the results, or want to stop Democrats from voting.
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