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  • #61
    Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
    It would make me feel better if you didn't revert to the debate tactics of a 5 year old when you come across a dissenting opinion.
    Now THAT's an intelligent post!!
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
      Nothing you quoted is inconsistent with a God who introduced himself as a man to allow for religious proliferation among a patriarchal people, which is the only rational purpose for an ageless, formless, all-powerful entity to have a gender preference.
      You are arguing from silence and conjecture.

      What we know is that
      God introduced himself as a man,
      appeared in the OT at various times in theophanies as a man,
      said he wanted to be called Father,
      incarnated as a male Jesus,
      who the Father called his Son,
      and the Son called him the Father.

      So all evidence points to God wanting to be seen as male.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
        It would make me feel better if you didn't revert to the debate tactics of a 5 year old when you come across a dissenting opinion.
        If you didn't come up with dumb 5 year old nonsense that was actually worth debating...
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
          You are arguing from silence and conjecture.

          What we know is that
          God introduced himself as a man,
          appeared in the OT at various times in theophanies as a man,
          said he wanted to be called Father,
          incarnated as a male Jesus,
          who the Father called his Son,
          and the Son called him the Father.

          So all evidence points to God wanting to be seen as male.
          I'm arguing from what makes sense. Of course God wanted to be seen as male. To what aims would a god continue to desire to be identified as a male long after its overt involvement with human affairs? That seems like a pretty petty concern for a being that is supposed to be all-powerful. Do you think that God would rather people not be saved over something that matters so little?

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
            I'm arguing from what makes sense. Of course God wanted to be seen as male. To what aims would a god continue to desire to be identified as a male long after its overt involvement with human affairs? That seems like a pretty petty concern for a being that is supposed to be all-powerful. Do you think that God would rather people not be saved over something that matters so little?
            Also Israel being a Patriarchal society is BECAUSE of God. He set it up that way.

            You are trying to rationalize your view with no evidence. God doesn't change his nature. If he wanted to be seen as male 2000 years ago he does today too. God wants us to worship him on his terms, not ours. We don't get to just make up things that are convenient or we think are nice about God because that is the current view of society. Throughout the bible God tells us to not conform to the world, to not be caught up in what the world thinks is right and wrong, that we are ambassadors of God's kingdom and that we are to be holy and that we do not belong to the world.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
              Also Israel being a Patriarchal society is BECAUSE of God. He set it up that way.

              You are trying to rationalize your view with no evidence. God doesn't change his nature. If he wanted to be seen as male 2000 years ago he does today too. God wants us to worship him on his terms, not ours. We don't get to just make up things that are convenient or we think are nice about God because that is the current view of society. Throughout the bible God tells us to not conform to the world, to not be caught up in what the world thinks is right and wrong, that we are ambassadors of God's kingdom and that we are to be holy and that we do not belong to the world.
              Exactly, god is obviously an old, cantankerous, vengeful, white bearded, caucasion, alpha male. I've seen the portraits.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by JimL View Post
                Exactly, god is obviously an old, cantankerous, vengeful, white bearded, caucasion, alpha male. I've seen the portraits.
                Good for you.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post
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                  As someone who deals with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder on a daily basis, I really hate what the word "triggered" has come to mean...
                  I am Punkinhead.

                  "I have missed you, Oh Grand High Priestess of the Order of the Stirring Pot"

                  ~ Cow Poke aka CP aka Creacher aka ke7ejx's apprentice....

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by JimL View Post
                    Exactly, god is obviously an old, cantankerous, vengeful, white bearded, caucasion, alpha male. I've seen the portraits.
                    Does this even happen when you're on your meds?
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                      You are arguing from silence and conjecture.

                      What we know is that
                      God introduced himself as a man,
                      appeared in the OT at various times in theophanies as a man,
                      said he wanted to be called Father,
                      incarnated as a male Jesus,
                      who the Father called his Son,
                      and the Son called him the Father.

                      So all evidence points to God wanting to be seen as male.
                      The concept of a tribal deity evolved at a time when patriarchal communities were the norm, men were the supreme authority and women were the followers. So, of course God would be male.
                      “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                        The concept of a tribal deity evolved at a time when patriarchal communities were the norm, men were the supreme authority and women were the followers. So, of course God would be male.
                        Great. so you admit God is male.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                          The concept of a tribal deity evolved at a time when patriarchal communities were the norm, men were the supreme authority and women were the followers. So, of course God would be male.
                          What is wrong with that, it is what we see in our closest primate cousins. It's just natural...
                          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                            Great. so you admit God is male.
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by seer View Post
                              What is wrong with that, it is what we see in our closest primate cousins. It's just natural...
                              I don't believe he was suggesting anything was wrong with it seer, he was just explaining why your god was conceived of as a male and not a female.

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                              • #75
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                                Do you believe that Jesus - the man - never actually walked the ground in Israel?
                                Last edited by Jedidiah; 02-07-2018, 09:57 AM.
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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