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Originally posted by JimL View PostDo you think it moral to stone and burn people to death for picking up sticks on the Sabbath, Sparko?"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostJimL comes across as someone who is so convinced of Christianity's obvious inferiority that there's no need to put forth any effort in refuting it.
You'd think he'd learn otherwise after a sufficient quantity of boots to the head, but his smug superiority appears to be invincible.
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostDid you even read Adrift's earlier post to you on capital punishment in the Pentateuch?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThe golden rule, Sparko. Think about it! Now you answer the question. Do you think that stoning and burning human beings to death for any reason is moral?
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThe article is one of those that is repeating parts of other articles. sigh.
But following one of the links in it I see:
Now, he said, he understands why people believe the Christian faith leads them to oppose same-sex marriage, but hopes they encounter scripture interpreted a different way.
“I hope that teachings about inclusion and love win out over what I personally consider to be a handful of scriptures that reflect the moral expectations of the era in which they were recorded,” he said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/relig...=.2141dc11248e
Which shows he isn't interpreting scripture at all, he is ignoring it as some sort of "cultural thing" that men made up, not God.
So basically he has a Smorgasbord style Christianity. He just picks the parts of the buffet he likes and ignores the rest.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostInferiority has nothing to do with it, it's mythology woven into a history, and I've refuted it plenty.
Now that's what I call an ironic accussation.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSo, nothing at all about accepting Christ as Savior, sin, repentance... Just "let's all hold hands and sing kum-ba-yah, and ignore what the Bible actually says".
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postnope. Just picking what parts he likes (inclusion, love) and ignoring the parts he doesn't (sin, punishment)The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThat's called "argument by weblink" which is a no-no. Can you please cite the part where Buttigieg himself claims to be a practicing Christian.
And, more importantly, where he, as a "practicing Christian" interprets, rather than outright ignores, the relevant scriptures concerning homosexuality?
Thanks
It's clear enough that he considers himself a Christian, even without the information in this piece quoting him:
“When I think about where most of Scripture points me, it is toward defending the poor, and the immigrant, and the stranger, and the prisoner, and the outcast, and those who are left behind by the way society works. And what we have now is this exaltation of wealth and power, almost for its own sake, that in my reading of Scripture couldn't be more contrary to the message of Christianity."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/3342767002/1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostYou asked "Show me where he actually claims to be a 'practicing Christian'." No argument involved - just a link that shows where he makes the claim (or so I thought) per your request.
It's clear enough that he considers himself a Christian, even without the information in this piece quoting him:
“When I think about where most of Scripture points me, it is toward defending the poor, and the immigrant, and the stranger, and the prisoner, and the outcast, and those who are left behind by the way society works. And what we have now is this exaltation of wealth and power, almost for its own sake, that in my reading of Scripture couldn't be more contrary to the message of Christianity."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/3342767002/The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSure, he has a very dismissive view of the Bible in favor of his "faith" of Liberation Theology.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostWell yes - but I've got a war on my hands right now about OSAS (which can only be valid if "faith alone" holds true.) ... which is promoted by some and opposed by others, with both groups claiming to be Christian. People holding the wrong view on that issue are no less imperilled. But I don't think either side is willing to call the other "not Christian" for all that one of them is certainly ignoring even broader swathes of scripture than are devoted to homosexual relationships.
So, I'm not asking "is he a Christian" or even debating whether he is or is not. All I'm asking is - in light of the anti-Christian crowd proclaiming him "a practicing Christian" - has he ever made that claim himself?
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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