List of Trump's crimes?

[lilpixieofterror]

Hey, I never intended for that to be made public!

“You should never tell a psychopath they’re a psychopath. It upsets them.”

We have confirmation. The police will be there to arrest you any minute now.

[Cow Poke]

“You should never tell a psychopath they’re a psychopath. It upsets them.”

Kinda like trying to tell a hysterical person to "calm down" -- it's like pouring gasoline on a dumpster fire.

[firstfloor]

presumed

Roy, what are you doing? Please don’t encourage him. Trump is under investigation because he is a suspect with ‘previous’. On the ladder of innocence and guilt, he is about half way up and only at the top, at trial, if he gets there, is he given the benefit of a fair trial in the Senate. The presumption of innocence is a fiction often confused with fair trial methodology.

People like Trump, walk about in a state, not of innocence, but of not having been caught yet.

[Cow Poke]

Roy, what are you doing? Please don’t encourage him. Trump is under investigation because he is a suspect with ‘previous’. On the ladder of innocence and guilt, he is about half way up and only at the top, at trial, if he gets there, is he given the benefit of a fair trial in the Senate. The presumption of innocence is a fiction often confused with fair trial methodology.

People like Trump, walk about in a state, not of innocence, but of not having been caught yet.

Besides the principle of "presumption of innocence" is another principle of American jurisprudence that shields an accused from being smeared by past offenses.

Each trial is on the specific charges for which he is currently accused. It is in the "punishment phase" of the trial that past conduct can be entered into the record and considered.

[Mountain Man]

The latest narrative being floated by the Democrats is that Trump committed bribery in order to bring their false accusations in line with what's in the Constitution (bribery and treason being the two explicitly named examples of impeachable crimes), which is of course absurd.

"If your country does X for my country, then my country will do Y for your country" is not bribery but simply how international diplomacy has been done for as long as there have been nations.

[Mountain Man]

Kinda like trying to tell a hysterical person to "calm down" -- it's like pouring gasoline on a dumpster fire.

The wife is mildly upset.

The husband says, "Calm down, sweetheart."

This never ends well for the husband.

[JimL]

The latest narrative being floated by the Democrats is that Trump committed bribery in order to bring their false accusations in line with what's in the Constitution (bribery and treason being the two explicitly named examples of impeachable crimes), which is of course absurd.

"If your country does X for my country, then my country will do Y for your country" is not bribery but simply how international diplomacy has been done for as long as there have been nations.

As has been made clear, when doing it in the interests of the country it's fine, when doing it for your own personal interests, particularly at the expense of the countries interests, it's illegal, unconstitutional, and in this particular case, in my opinion, it's treasonous.

[JimL]

Turn on my own? I've never been a fan of Bolton or any other neocon from the Bush era.

The question was why do you say Bolton is the quintessential definition of the deep state.

[rogue06]

The latest narrative being floated by the Democrats is that Trump committed bribery in order to bring their false accusations in line with what's in the Constitution (bribery and treason being the two explicitly named examples of impeachable crimes), which is of course absurd.

"If your country does X for my country, then my country will do Y for your country" is not bribery but simply how international diplomacy has been done for as long as there have been nations.

I think that they're now saying "bribery" because "quid pro quo" didn't do well in their focus group testing

[Leonhard]

I think Donald Trump is guilty of being Donald Trump; That is his crime and it also his punishment.

[Cow Poke]

I think Donald Trump is guilty of being Donald Trump; That is his crime and it also his punishment.

That's rich!

[Mountain Man]

I think Donald Trump is guilty of being Donald Trump; That is his crime and it also his punishment.

You win the thread.

[Cow Poke]

I peek in on the hearings on occasion, and I always manage to catch Schiff doing his bug eyes.

schiff bug eyes.jpg

[whag]

Rather, Mueller detailed 10 episodes that could have possibly maybe been obstruction but for which he lacked the evidence (and apparently the professional and personal conviction) to recommend that Trump be indicted. Instead, he passed the buck to the Department of Justice who, after a thorough review of Mueller's findings, "concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense."

If it’s a “crime” to appoint one’s son on the board of a foreign energy company, surely it’s just as much a crime to appoint one’s relatives to positions of power in the WH that they aren’t qualified for. You’d have ripped Obama as classless for doing the same thing.

[rogue06]

I think Donald Trump is guilty of being Donald Trump; That is his crime and it also his punishment.

Yet another time I wish we still had POTD