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Who Were the Disciples on the Road to Emmaus?

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  • Who Were the Disciples on the Road to Emmaus?

    Who Were the Disciples on the Road to Emmaus?

    Husband and wife? Don't know? NOT husband and wife?

    And I'd be interested in your reasoning.
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    Most likely (or definitely) Husband and Wife
    28.57%
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    Most likely (or definteily) NOT Husband and Wife
    14.29%
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    Don't really know
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    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

  • #2
    It doesn't say.

    I've had my own Emmaus road situation once.

    Back in high school on our senior trip we went to New York City. We were waiting for our bus after visiting downtown and I wandered into a store. When I came out everyone was gone! I missed the bus!

    So I hailed a cab and went back to the hotel. The principal called the room and was relieved that I was there after they noticed I was missing. He was impressed I was smart enough to get a cab back to the hotel. He told me that I could take a cab to the Smithsonian and they would meet me there after they finished at the Statue of Liberty.

    While I was waiting in the lobby of the Smithsonian, some other students wandered in and I heard them talking about "the kid who missed the bus" so I wandered into the group and asked them what happened, and one girl said, "Didn't you hear about the kid who missed the bus! I heard he took a cab back to the hotel and is supposed to meet us here! I would never know what to do in that situation would you?"

    I said, "Yeah, I think I would have figured it out."

    Then a few minutes later the principal and the rest of the students came in and the principal came up to me and announce how I did the right thing and if anyone else gets lost to do the same. The girl who was talking to me gave me a dirty look and I just shrugged my shoulders.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      Who Were the Disciples on the Road to Emmaus?

      Husband and wife? Don't know? NOT husband and wife?

      And I'd be interested in your reasoning.
      Not going to choose an option just yet, but my gut feeling after taking a look at the passage is that they're two male disciples. I see no indication in the text that one of them was a woman, or that they were married. That doesn't mean it's impossible, but I do think there would have been some sort of indication in the text if that was the case.

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      • #4
        The only thing that makes me maybe wonder if they were husband and wife is that they invited Jesus to stay with them. Also, everybody was in Jerusalem for the Passover, and families would certainly have been together for the high holy day, so maybe it was a married couple.



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        • #5
          Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
          Not going to choose an option just yet, but my gut feeling after taking a look at the passage is that they're two male disciples. I see no indication in the text that one of them was a woman, or that they were married. That doesn't mean it's impossible, but I do think there would have been some sort of indication in the text if that was the case.
          I'll provide the source for why I wondered about this in a bit...
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by mossrose View Post
            The only thing that makes me maybe wonder if they were husband and wife is that they invited Jesus to stay with them. Also, everybody was in Jerusalem for the Passover, and families would certainly have been together for the high holy day, so maybe it was a married couple.

            That moves close to the reasoning that brought me to this question.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #7
              One was a woman because there was an offer of a meal involved, ha ha?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Esther View Post
                One was a woman because there was an offer of a meal involved, ha ha?
                Naw, I guess I'll go look for what it was that triggered this.... mossy seemed (HEY-- I GOT A PACKAGE!!!!!) to have pretty much the same logic.

                Hmmmm.... this isn't the one, but it's very close....


                Who Were the Disciples on the Road to Emmaus?


                The answer to this question is not as uncertain as most people, who are accustomed to referring merely to the “Emmaus disciples,” are likely to assume. For one thing, the story itself gives the name of one of them.

                If you turn to Luke 24:18, you will find that one of the disciples was called Cleopas. Moreover, if you will then use any good concordance of the words occurring in the New Testament and look up the word “Cleopas,” you will find a second mention of his name in another account of the Resurrection. The reference is John 19:25. There we read, “Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary, the wife of Cleopas, and Mary Magdalene.”

                It is true that John spells the name a bit differently. But the spelling of names often varied in antiquity, and here the two names undoubtedly refer to the same person. Thus, we learn that the wife of Cleopas was also present in Jerusalem at the time of the Crucifixion. And we may, therefore, assume that she was the one returning to Emmaus with him on the morning of the Resurrection.

                Moreover, I believe that we can know even more than this. For it seems clear to me that John has given us her name when he writes of “his [Jesus’] mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary, the wife of Cleopas, and Mary Magdalene.” I must admit that because of the way John has written this verse it is not at once obvious whether John is identifying the first Mary he mentions as the sister of the virgin Mary or as the wife of Cleopas. But a little thought shows that the second of these should be preferred.

                Why?

                1. For one thing, John seems to be distinguishing between two different Marys in the second part of the verse—Mary, the wife of Cleopas, and Mary Magdalene. At least this is the most natural way of interpreting the sentence.

                2. Second, if this is not the case, then either there is an unidentified Mary in the story (making five persons) or else there is a Mary who is the sister of the Virgin Mary.

                The first case is unlikely in itself as well as unlike John’s literary style. And the second is unlikely simply because it would mean there were two sisters, both named Mary. These reasons seem to point to the wife of Cleopas being named Mary, a woman who (we are told elsewhere) was also the mother of James the less and Joses and who had been a follower of Jesus as well as a helper of Jesus and His immediate disciples (Mark 15:40, 41: cf. Mark 16:1 and Luke 24:10).
                Last edited by Cow Poke; 04-20-2020, 04:16 PM.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  That moves close to the reasoning that brought me to this question.


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mossrose View Post


                    Did everything arrive safely?
                    Lemme look....
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      Lemme look....
                      YES! Fantsmical!
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        YES! Fantsmical!
                        Yuh!

                        So glad!


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                          If you turn to Luke 24:18, you will find that one of the disciples was called Cleopas. Moreover, if you will then use any good concordance of the words occurring in the New Testament and look up the word “Cleopas,” you will find a second mention of his name in another account of the Resurrection. The reference is John 19:25. There we read, “Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary, the wife of Cleopas, and Mary Magdalene.”

                          It is true that John spells the name a bit differently. But the spelling of names often varied in antiquity, and here the two names undoubtedly refer to the same person. Thus, we learn that the wife of Cleopas was also present in Jerusalem at the time of the Crucifixion. And we may, therefore, assume that she was the one returning to Emmaus with him on the morning of the Resurrection.

                          Moreover, I believe that we can know even more than this. For it seems clear to me that John has given us her name when he writes of “his [Jesus’] mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary, the wife of Cleopas, and Mary Magdalene.” I must admit that because of the way John has written this verse it is not at once obvious whether John is identifying the first Mary he mentions as the sister of the virgin Mary or as the wife of Cleopas. But a little thought shows that the second of these should be preferred.

                          Why?

                          1. For one thing, John seems to be distinguishing between two different Marys in the second part of the verse—Mary, the wife of Cleopas, and Mary Magdalene. At least this is the most natural way of interpreting the sentence.

                          2. Second, if this is not the case, then either there is an unidentified Mary in the story (making five persons) or else there is a Mary who is the sister of the Virgin Mary.

                          The first case is unlikely in itself as well as unlike John’s literary style. And the second is unlikely simply because it would mean there were two sisters, both named Mary. These reasons seem to point to the wife of Cleopas being named Mary, a woman who (we are told elsewhere) was also the mother of James the less and Joses and who had been a follower of Jesus as well as a helper of Jesus and His immediate disciples (Mark 15:40, 41: cf. Mark 16:1 and Luke 24:10).[/box]

                          yeah I don't think Mary would have a sister named Mary.

                          (reminds me of the Bob Newhart show with Darryl, Darryl and Darryl. )

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                            yeah I don't think Mary would have a sister named Mary.

                            (reminds me of the Bob Newhart show with Darryl, Darryl and Darryl. )
                            Ahem. It was Larry, Darryl and Darryl.



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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                              Ahem. It was Larry, Darryl and Darryl.

                              Oh yeah.

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