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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostHitler?
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This is a really old copy-pasta that's been going around. The original source is from Ed Feser's article "The Moustache on the Left" which was a response to an attack ad on Bush in the upcoming election of 2004, that depicted the Republican president with a Hitler stash.
As Adrift points out the point was to point out the superficiality of comparisons like that.
The article is still available for reading: http://www.ideasinactiontv.com/tcs_d...-the-left.html
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostOf course. You can't get much further than "He had been something of a bohemian in his youth" before it starts sounding like a copy-pasta. Problem with these sort of pseudo-bios is that you can kind of tailor it to promote whatever view you hold. A hardcore leftist could do the same thing, and make Hitler come out as a raving right-winger. I mean, we see this enough already with Starlight's pseudo-bios of Jesus as a radical Marxist. I think we need to guard against this sort of thing.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostOf course it's copy-pasta. It is relevant because the Left tends to paint Hitler as an extreme right-winger. I agree, it's hardly a complete picture."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View Posthe is an extreme right winger by historic standards. the right in the US simply doesn't mean what it used to anymore, at least in the mainstream.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostFascist.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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As has been noted, this has been going around a long time, and it is Hitler. One of the many problems it has is that it mixes views Hitler held at different points in his life into one cohesive whole that doesn't reflect Hitler at any specific point in his life. As such, I found it largely useless when I first read it.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostAs has been noted, this has been going around a long time, and it is Hitler. One of the many problems it has is that it mixes views Hitler held at different points in his life into one cohesive whole that doesn't reflect Hitler at any specific point in his life. As such, I found it largely useless when I first read it.
But many of the elements from one point of his life did not completely disappear, but changed slightly, and took a different form in the ideology. We like to simplify the Naziism, but when we do we lose the ability to understand it, and we also lose the ability to see why many did not see it as evil*
Some writers have pointed out the problem with the right/left dichotomy, which places Nazi fascism as a polar opposite of Soviet communism
*Have to put this in: I am not advocating Nazi ideologies, just pointing out that many contemporaries saw it differently than we do today.
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This is one reason I prefer to use a 2d-political chart like the kind PoliticalCompass.org uses:
Hitler and Stalin differed in their economic policies, but not in the dictatorial and authoritarian nature of their rule.
Loosely speaking most modern politics tends to occur roughly along the diagonal from bottom left to top right of that chart, and so what we think of as the "left" today is the bottom left quadrant while the "right" is the top right quadrant. Relatively little modern politics occurs in either the top left (dictatorial communism) or the bottom right (ideological libertarianism). The chart is helpful to think about in terms of concentration of power - is power to make decisions concentrated in the hands of a few (right-wing) or distributed among many or all people (left-wing)? The horizontal axis is economic power, the vertical axis is political and social power."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Maybe the one thing that the left and the right seem to agree on is that Hitler belonged to the other side."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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