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Originally posted by Sparko View PostBut but he can't be mistaken! He used google!!Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThat doesn't even make sense Tassman. He merely corrected your misunderstanding about the Civil Rights Act, which others have done previously, and each and every time your response was just just repeat your previous error word for word. Sticking your fingers in your ears and going "lalalala I can't hear you" doesn't change the fact that you are WRONG. Repeating your wrongness doesn't make it right. It just makes you look ignorant and a waste of time to even debate with.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThat doesn't even make sense Tassman. He merely corrected your misunderstanding about the Civil Rights Act, which others have done previously, and each and every time your response was just just repeat your previous error word for word. Sticking your fingers in your ears and going "lalalala I can't hear you" doesn't change the fact that you are WRONG. Repeating your wrongness doesn't make it right. It just makes you look ignorant and a waste of time to even debate with.
"Long title:
An act to enforce the constitutional right to vote, to confer jurisdiction upon the district courts of the United States of America to provide injunctive relief against discrimination in public accommodations, to authorize the Attorney General to institute suits to protect constitutional rights in public facilities and public education, to extend the Commission on Civil Rights, to prevent discrimination in federally assisted programs, to establish a Commission on Equal Employment Opportunity, and for other purposes.
Enacted by the 88th United States Congress
Effective July 2, 1964"“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThe error is seer's as he, as usual, tries to make texts mean what he wants them to mean. The intention of the Civil Rights Act is perfectly clear.
"Long title:
An act to enforce the constitutional right to vote, to confer jurisdiction upon the district courts of the United States of America to provide injunctive relief against discrimination in public accommodations, to authorize the Attorney General to institute suits to protect constitutional rights in public facilities and public education, to extend the Commission on Civil Rights, to prevent discrimination in federally assisted programs, to establish a Commission on Equal Employment Opportunity, and for other purposes.
Enacted by the 88th United States Congress
Effective July 2, 1964"
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Originally posted by seer View PostAre you saying that the Court can not violate the Constitution?
It certainly could happen that the court would say the Constitution means X while 90 percent of the American people said it meant the contrary of X. If that were to happen, then our democracy would be in serious trouble of a kind that could not be solved merely by continuing a debate about the meaning of the Constitution.
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Originally posted by Doug Shaver View PostI am saying that the question is unanswerable without reference to people's interpretations of the Constitution. I am not an Aristotelian. I do not believe that any text in any language has any meaning independent of the thinking of the community using that language.
It certainly could happen that the court would say the Constitution means X while 90 percent of the American people said it meant the contrary of X. If that were to happen, then our democracy would be in serious trouble of a kind that could not be solved merely by continuing a debate about the meaning of the Constitution.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostWhat if a majority agreed with a Court ruling that we actually don't have the right of petition of there isn't the freedom of the press? Is it now true - that there is no Constitutional right to either?
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Originally posted by Doug Shaver View PostThen my opinion would be irrelevant, but I would be of the opinion that (a) I was no longer living in a free nation and that (b) most of my fellow citizens had taken leave of their senses.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThere you go again, merely repeating yourself. Your OWN previous link said you were wrong. Posting a title of the CRA doesn't prove your point.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by seer View PostExcept no matter what the Court or the majority said there would still be a Constitutional right to both the free press and right of petition.
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Originally posted by Doug Shaver View PostAs I said, I'm not an Aristotelian. Just as I believe words have no meaning that is independent of usage, I don't believe rights have any existence independently of human cognition.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostSo human rights are relative?“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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