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  • #76
    Originally posted by Darfius View Post
    Our brain which otherwise is causing us to sin sends itself a conflicting order?
    Or brain is not the same as our mind, half-wit.

    Originally posted by Darfius View Post
    Jesus had a body. Why didn't He sin? Just boatloads of stupid.
    Probably because he didn't have a sinful body.

    Originally posted by Darfius View Post
    Paul was using figurative language to describe the dichotomy between the higher self and lower self. The self God made versus the self we've made of ourselves through constant disobedience.
    He was making a distinction between our minds renewed by the Spirit and our emotions and instincts that stem from our brain and makes us stumble in sin. We didn't make ourselves that way through constant disobedience, we were born that way, and anyone who asserts otherwise is living in denial of their own state.

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    • #77
      what is ironic is that if Darfius is correct, he just damned himself because he can't keep the command he claims one must keep in order to be saved: do not sin.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
        what is ironic is that if Darfius is correct, he just damned himself because he can't keep the command he claims one must keep in order to be saved: do not sin.
        He must be super humble.
        I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
          He must be super humble.


          He said that Jesus said that to be saved we had to be as perfect as God. He obviously isn't. Therefore according to his own criteria he is damned. I think people like him will be judged by their own criteria when they face God.

          Matthew 7:2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Darfius View Post
            I don't sin very much if at all these days. But I never could have gotten to this point without Jesus and I will always need Him. In fact, one of the rewards of obeying Him is a deeper knowledge and understanding of my need for Him than those who claim to love Him and yet do not what He says. He is indeed the only way to stop sinning.
            Just to clarify: Do you believe you can be saved if you continue to sin? That Jesus will save you as long as you have faith in him and forgive you of your sins, or that Jesus merely assists you on stopping sinning and you have to stop sinning before you can be saved and have eternal life?

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
              Just to clarify: Do you believe you can be saved if you continue to sin? That Jesus will save you as long as you have faith in him and forgive you of your sins, or that Jesus merely assists you on stopping sinning and you have to stop sinning before you can be saved and have eternal life?
              For too long people have bandied about the term "saved" without understanding what they're talking about. What is it we're saved from? Scripture says Jesus came to save us from our sins. Men, because they are corrupt, changed that to mean He came to save us from the consequences of being sinful. He did come to do that, too, but only as a function of delivering us from being sinful. There is no punishment He would not inflict upon us to deliver us from sin.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Darfius View Post
                For too long people have bandied about the term "saved" without understanding what they're talking about. What is it we're saved from? Scripture says Jesus came to save us from our sins. Men, because they are corrupt, changed that to mean He came to save us from the consequences of being sinful. He did come to do that, too, but only as a function of delivering us from being sinful. There is no punishment He would not inflict upon us to deliver us from sin.
                Clarification: "Saved" in my question means avoiding hell, having eternal life on the New Earth with God.

                So? Do you believe you can be saved if you continue to sin? That Jesus will save you as long as you have faith in him and forgive you of your sins, or that Jesus merely assists you on stopping sinning and you have to stop sinning before you can be saved and have eternal life?

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  Clarification: "Saved" in my question means avoiding hell, having eternal life on the New Earth with God.

                  So? Do you believe you can be saved if you continue to sin? That Jesus will save you as long as you have faith in him and forgive you of your sins, or that Jesus merely assists you on stopping sinning and you have to stop sinning before you can be saved and have eternal life?
                  Your definition of saved doesn't interest or concern me, being unbiblical.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Darfius View Post
                    Your definition of saved doesn't interest or concern me, being unbiblical.
                    You don't believe Jesus came to pay for our sins on the cross and give us eternal life on the New Earth after the judgment?

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Darfius View Post
                      Your definition of saved doesn't interest or concern me, being unbiblical.
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                      Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                      - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Darfius View Post
                        After the total eclipse on August 21, we've had Hurricane Harvey, Hurricane Irma and imminent world war. All of this preceding the "sign in the heavens" on September 23 (Revelation 12). Anyone suspicious that we may be living in strange times?
                        Welp, it's now after September 23. Still waiting for the sign I was supposed to see.
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                          Welp, it's now after September 23. Still waiting for the sign I was supposed to see.
                          You missed it? Darfius swam out to sea with his daughters and swung his triton and formed a giant rainbow! Fortunately, I took video:

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                          That's what
                          - She

                          Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                          - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                          I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                          - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                            Welp, it's now after September 23. Still waiting for the sign I was supposed to see.
                            It happened dude! The rapture and everything. But then the Mandella Effect kicked in and undid everything.

                            I miss the apocalypse.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                              Welp, it's now after September 23. Still waiting for the sign I was supposed to see.
                              Any day now smiley waiting2.gif

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                              • #90
                                Well, there was no alien invasion or giant meteor either! Or gamma ray burst! Or random black hole! Or earth shattering kaboom!
                                If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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