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"If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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Originally posted by myth View PostI'm sorry, but I can't spell this out more clearly without publicly saying things that could be considered advice to criminals about how to help themselves during a criminal investigation. You'll have to reason this one out. Imagine being guilty, knowing they have unequivocal proof, that there's nothing you could say to lower the charges, and there's no one else to blame. What do you do?Last edited by seanD; 08-18-2019, 06:03 PM.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostAnyone know if this might be the same Dr Baden that testified in the defense of O.J. Simpson?Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
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Originally posted by myth View PostI'm sorry, but I can't spell this out more clearly without publicly saying things that could be considered advice to criminals about how to help themselves during a criminal investigation. You'll have to reason this one out. Imagine being guilty, knowing they have unequivocal proof, that there's nothing you could say to lower the charges, and there's no one else to blame. What do you do?"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by seanD View PostWe knew they legal protection like days ago.
The cops are NOT your friends - and they mean that bit about ANYTHING you say being used against you. No matter how innocent you are - shut up and lawyer up.
Even more so if you're guilty.
That's not assuming anything bad - it's just how the system works.
FYI: Manafort wouldn't have been convicted if he'd talked to counsel before the FBI interview."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostDoesn't matter - if you are under suspicion or investigation SHUT UP and GET A LAWYER.
The cops are NOT your friends - and they mean that bit about ANYTHING you say being used against you. No matter how innocent you are - shut up and lawyer up.
Even more so if you're guilty.
That's not assuming anything bad - it's just how the system works.
FYI: Manafort wouldn't have been convicted if he'd talked to counsel before the FBI interview.
The Feds apparently have all the evidence they need so there's no point antagonizing them even more. They have the logs and they somehow already know they were asleep. I would rather pose the question to myth since he's had experience with this, but wouldn't you feel the urge to be as lenient as you can towards criminals that cooperate with you than if they don't?
OTOH, if there's something the investigators don't already know (like getting bribes, or info that could criminalize them even more), now it makes sense to me that they'd be uncooperative and wait for trial.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostWow, that's unusual to hear from someone on tweb.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostWow, that's unusual to hear from someone on tweb.
The Feds apparently have all the evidence they need so there's no point antagonizing them even more. They have the logs and they somehow already know they were asleep. I would rather pose the question to myth since he's had experience with this, but wouldn't you feel the urge to be as lenient as you can towards criminals that cooperate with you than if they don't?
OTOH, if there's something the investigators don't already know (like getting bribes, or info that could criminalize them even more), now it makes sense to me that they'd be uncooperative and wait for trial.
They aren't inclined to be lenient. That's not their job. Shut up, get lawyer - follow the lawyer's advice.
For exactly the same reason you don't do your own tonsillectomy - you aren't the professional and when dealing with the law you NEED one."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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There's a young man I work with (probably not older than 20) who randomly asked me the other night if I knew a lot about the law. He had a question about a friend's marijuana case.
I know, a sign I really need somewhere better to work..."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by seanD View PostYou stand by "cops are not your friends"? YOU?
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