Should Trump Resign Over "Hellhole" Comment?

[carpedm9587]

Read the stories. The ones he generally went after were tax collectors and other government officials. Then he returned the money back to those they took it from.

He was an equal-opportunity thief: he stole from tax collectors, wealthy bishops, and pretty much any other rich person who wandered through the forest. At least, according to the legends. And as I recall, he is renown from doing so because he believed the poor in his area were being stolen from by the government, the church, and the rich.

[Tassman]

How is letting people keep more of their own money stealing from anyone?

Many of the 1% acquired their wealth at the expense of the 99% by manipulating markets and "encouraging" law-makers to adjust the tax laws in their favour...as we've seen recently.

[Roy]

MM, it is beneath you to pass on false stories.

It clearly isn't.

[Sparko]

Was being facetious. Doesn't matter what you want to call it, we just have different political, social, points of view. We liberals it would seem generally take the more christian perspective concerning the role of government, whereas conservatives take a more, well, how shall i say, a more satanic perspective I guess.

You told us you are independently wealthy and don't have to work. So how much of your wealth have you redistributed to the unjustly poor in the last year?

[Sparko]

Doesn't sound like it. That's why I think it's so important that Republicans not be allowed to cripple these government services like they have been doing, and that government is actually allowed to be efficient and functional and help people properly.

it wasn't the republicans that held up Teal's benefits. And there has never been anything 'efficient' about government services even when Obama was in charge.

[Mountain Man]

it wasn't the republicans that held up Teal's benefits. And there has never been anything 'efficient' about government services even when Obama was in charge.

It's been said that crippling bureaucracy is a good thing because it prevents governments from efficiently becoming pure evil.

[Sparko]

It's been said that crippling bureaucracy is a good thing because it prevents governments from efficiently becoming pure evil.

not in the case of helping the poor. If only a few cents of every tax dollar earmarked for welfare actually gets to the poor person while lining the pockets of every bureaucrat along the way - that is not a good thing. Much more efficient to give to a church who is volunteer and makes sure all of the money gets to the poor. Or to just give to the poor directly. I know that many Twebbers and other Christians in her community helped out Teal directly over the last few years when the government would not.

[JimL]

it wasn't the republicans that held up Teal's benefits. And there has never been anything 'efficient' about government services even when Obama was in charge.

Ah, republicans would like to take Teals benefits away completely, they don't believe in unemployment insurance, they don't believe in food stamps, they don't believe in social security/disability, they don't believe in affordable healthcare, housing etc etc. etc. Basically, republicans don't believe in a social safety net at all, so I don't know what you're going on about.

[Sparko]

Ah, republicans would like to take Teals benefits away completely, they don't believe in unemployment insurance, they don't believe in food stamps, they don't believe in social security/disability, they don't believe in affordable healthcare, housing etc etc. etc. Basically, republicans don't believe in a social safety net at all, so I don't know what you're going on about.

completely wrong.

Unemployment insurance is not welfare, it is paid into by the employee and employer directly. It is literally insurance. Same with social security and disability. Same with healthcare, etc. Nothing you said is correct. If you tried you could not have gotten it more wrong.

[JimL]

completely wrong.

Unemployment insurance is not welfare, it is paid into by the employee and employer directly. It is literally insurance. Same with social security and disability. Same with healthcare, etc. Nothing you said is correct. If you tried you could not have gotten it more wrong.

Republicans do not believe in a social saftey net Sparko, they don't believe in their tax dollars going towards such things that they they themselves may not even benefit from. Where have you been?

[Cow Poke]

Ah, republicans would like to take Teals benefits away completely, they don't believe in unemployment insurance, they don't believe in food stamps, they don't believe in social security/disability, they don't believe in affordable healthcare, housing etc etc. etc. Basically, republicans don't believe in a social safety net at all, so I don't know what you're going on about.

It's not "republicans" who think that, Jim. It may be some, but certainly not all, and this is just one big dumb overly broad ignorant statement.

[Cow Poke]

Republicans do not believe in a social saftey net Sparko,

No, but many of us DO believe in a safety net!

they don't believe in their tax dollars going towards such things that they they themselves may not even benefit from. Where have you been?

Apparently, you've been in your mom's basement way too long reading "liberal talking points for dummies".

[Sparko]

Republicans do not believe in a social saftey net Sparko, they don't believe in their tax dollars going towards such things that they they themselves may not even benefit from. Where have you been?

and none of those things you mentioned are being paid for by tax dollars Jimmy. Try again.

[JimL]

and none of those things you mentioned are being paid for by tax dollars Jimmy. Try again.

Oh, so you want to play semantical games now?

[Cow Poke]

Oh, so you want to play semantical games now?

That's nowhere near "semantics". It's base fact. There is a world of difference between benefits coming from an insurance program, and benefits coming from tax dollars.