Chloroquine: The cure for covid-19?

[Starlight]

The Pharma-sponsored media absolutely does not want a simple pre-existing medicine

It's not 'simple'... it's a dangerous medication with serious side effects, sometimes lethal ones, extremely easy to lethally overdose on, and not appropriate for anyone with many of the same types of pre-existing conditions that make people at high-risk for COVID.

The scientific findings so far on its usefulness in treating COVID are mixed. At best you could say it's probably mildly beneficial for people who's COVID infections have developed to the point of being possibly lethal, to be given it by doctors in a controlled setting in controlled amounts, so long as those patients don't have any of the underlying conditions that this medication reacts dangerously with.

It is clear from the research on it, that it is not a magic pill that cures COVID for anyone and everyone.

I say this as someone who is a scientist, and someone who is very anti big-pharma and who thinks all pharmaceutical companies should be nationalised and purely government funded and their medicines made available free of charge to all once discovered. (Fun fact: The amount of $$ private pharmaceutical companies actually spend on R&D of new drugs, as opposed to marketing, executive salaries, shareholder profit etc, is way below 1% of Western Government's budgets, those governments could easily fund all global pharma research if they felt like it - instead of subsidizing private pharma companies to do that research and then paying them huge $$$ to buy the end product drugs off them which all goes to the private shareholders in profit and rich CEOs.) But there's no 'big pharma' conspiracy in this instance - this drug is known to doctors around the world and plenty have tried it on COVID patients, and it hasn't shown itself to be any kind of miracle cure.

[mikewhitney]

Here's an article on Didier Raoult and chloroquine
https://www.connexionfrance.com/Fren...-trial-results

[Starlight]

The lesser problem with the French study was that the control and treatment group weren't randomized - they were at different geographical locations.

The greater problem with the French study is that 3 or 4 patients in the treatment group got seriously worse and had to be transferred to the ICU (one died!), and were, bizarrely, omitted from their published statistics about their treatment group as a result! When people die on your miracle cure, it isn't a miracle cure, and not reporting it properly is negligent.

[simplicio]

The lesser problem with the French study was that the control and treatment group weren't randomized - they were at different geographical locations.

The greater problem with the French study is that 3 or 4 patients in the treatment group got seriously worse and had to be transferred to the ICU (one died!), and were, bizarrely, omitted from their published statistics about their treatment group as a result! When people die on your miracle cure, it isn't a miracle cure, and not reporting it properly is negligent.

This is a real time case study on how people react to, are influenced by, and learn from science news. The examples of evolution, and global warming are different, they have been around a while, many grew up with the controversies (geocentrism is rather new). But in all the examples, political ideologies play a role.

One the one hand, this novel virus is the "Chinavirus" linked to wet markets with a specific origin in time. Yet people are speculating that they have had this virus before Wuhan! (another thread here). Naive science views are extremely difficult to overcome.

[Bill the Cat]

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[mikewhitney]

The lesser problem with the French study was that the control and treatment group weren't randomized - they were at different geographical locations.

The greater problem with the French study is that 3 or 4 patients in the treatment group got seriously worse and had to be transferred to the ICU (one died!), and were, bizarrely, omitted from their published statistics about their treatment group as a result! When people die on your miracle cure, it isn't a miracle cure, and not reporting it properly is negligent.

People often die when they are seriously ill. This happens even when there is no Wuhan virus.

Did you have a link to the information you are talking about? If people have tested positive and volunteered to take the medicine, they still could have underlying conditions that suggest not trying this medicine. The basic warnings I hear from people here about the medicine suggests that we only use it for someone that is likely to have adverse affects from the virus.

[Sparko]

So more information regarding the woman who poisoned herself and her husband with Aquarium cleaner/pesticide. She and the MSM have been spinning it as someone who was just listening to Trump so it is Trump's fault.

Well not so fast. It appears she hates Trump, is a big DNC supporter, and heard about the HCQ from "news sources"

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Woman who said she drank fish-tank cleaner because of president's advice is not a Trump supporter https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ari...trump-democrat



Wanda told the Free Beacon that she and her husband were both Democrats, not Trump supporters. They heard about the potential benefits of chloroquine, an antimalarial drug, in news reports.
https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/w...cratic-causes/

[Cerebrum123]

So more information regarding the woman who poisoned herself and her husband with Aquarium cleaner/pesticide. She and the MSM have been spinning it as someone who was just listening to Trump so it is Trump's fault.

Well not so fast. It appears she hates Trump, is a big DNC supporter, and heard about the HCQ from "news sources"

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Woman who said she drank fish-tank cleaner because of president's advice is not a Trump supporter https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ari...trump-democrat



Wanda told the Free Beacon that she and her husband were both Democrats, not Trump supporters. They heard about the potential benefits of chloroquine, an antimalarial drug, in news reports.
https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/w...cratic-causes/

Doesn't sound too far off from The Babylon Bee.

[simplicio]

Doesn't sound too far off from The Babylon Bee.

When life imitates satire........

[Sparko]

When life imitates satire........

Louder with Crouder (conservative shock jock) has unearthed some history on the woman of a domestic violence criminal case and she was trying to divorce her husband in 2012. He is suggesting this might be a case of murder disguised as a bonehead move. Not sure I buy into that conspiracy theory but it is a possibility.

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/ch...media-ignored/

[seanD]

So more information regarding the woman who poisoned herself and her husband with Aquarium cleaner/pesticide. She and the MSM have been spinning it as someone who was just listening to Trump so it is Trump's fault.

Well not so fast. It appears she hates Trump, is a big DNC supporter, and heard about the HCQ from "news sources"

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Woman who said she drank fish-tank cleaner because of president's advice is not a Trump supporter https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ari...trump-democrat



Wanda told the Free Beacon that she and her husband were both Democrats, not Trump supporters. They heard about the potential benefits of chloroquine, an antimalarial drug, in news reports.
https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/w...cratic-causes/

Not only that, but it's looking like her intent was to murder her husband all along and use this dumb excuse as a cover.

Woman Who Blamed Trump after Giving Her Husband Fish-Tank Cleaner Now Under Investigation for Murder