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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostI don't think so: you jumped to a different topic MM and then applied my comments to that larger topic, not to the smaller topic I am addressing. I'm not addressing the issue of all propose 'liberal' solutions and their potential impact on the economy.
I'm talking about a specific accusation of hypocrisy to one wealthy couple and then to the broader topic of whether or not their attempt to neutralize the impact of taking a private jet could actually accomplish that goal with the broadest topic addressed being whether or not sequestering efforts used as compensation for CO2 production can be effective.
Jim
Was there anything else you wished to discuss?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostIf your goal is to not drain your bank account and you are spending $500 a month but only earning $300 and you get a friend to deposit an extra $100 into your account each month you are still being short $100/month, and if you then say "Why my friend gave me $100 so I can now spend $100 more each month" then you are in even more trouble. The only way to get out of the hole is to spend less than you earn each month, even counting your friend's deposits.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostIf your goal is to not drain your bank account and you are spending $500 a month but only earning $300 and you get a friend to deposit an extra $100 into your account each month you are still being short $100/month, and if you then say "Why my friend gave me $100 so I can now spend $100 more each month" then you are in even more trouble. The only way to get out of the hole is to spend less than you earn each month, even counting your friend's deposits.
If your point is 'everyone can't do that' then you are correct. If your point it 'they should not live a life of privilege', then that ship has already sailed - that is who they are.
'carbon credits' is not a solution that will work for the whole world.
Perhaps the difference is that you see them as demanding we suffer while they do not.
I don't see that.
I see them advocating for fighting climate change and asking all of us - including themselves - to make changes in the way we do things so that it helps or is consistent with that goal. If they take a trip, but pay to reduce CO2 in the atmosphere by as much as or more than what they have created, then they are changing their way of doing things so it is consistent with that goal.
JimLast edited by oxmixmudd; 08-21-2019, 04:45 PM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYes, I already pointed out that you are blatantly rationalizing (the whole "it's not hypocrisy because they can afford it, and they're keeping people employed" nonsense).
Was there anything else you wished to discuss?
Another time, another day - sure.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostIf your goal is to not drain your bank account and you are spending $500 a month but only earning $300 and you get a friend to deposit an extra $100 into your account each month you are still being short $100/month, and if you then say "Why my friend gave me $100 so I can now spend $100 more each month" then you are in even more trouble. The only way to get out of the hole is to spend less than you earn each month, even counting your friend's deposits.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSo, using private jets is not that bad, especially when celebrities use them while preaching drastic climate change measures?
It seems to me that the rich and famous preaching climate change while jetting around in very expensive private jets is on a par with TV preachers preaching sacrificial giving while jetting around in very expensive private jets.
Both are hypocrisy."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostNot while you arebeing a jerkstating facts and opinions that contradict me.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostExcept I find the latter even more infuriating...
A) they should know better (if they're really Christians)
2) they're "all about me" when they should be all about Jesus
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI think that's probably more accurate.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by JimL View PostI think the point is not to lessen the Co2 levels, but to first stop the increase of the existent atmospheric Co2 levels which increase will hasten the warming trend. The point is to stop it from getting worse to the point that the consequeces will be disastrous for the world. When the atmospheric C02 levels stop rising, then we can figure out how to bring those levels down, or at least keep them stable so as to not cause any more damage to the environment than has already occured.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSo, using private jets is not that bad, especially when celebrities use them while preaching drastic climate change measures?
It seems to me that the rich and famous preaching climate change while jetting around in very expensive private jets is on a par with TV preachers preaching sacrificial giving while jetting around in very expensive private jets.
Both are hypocrisy.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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The reason that Greenland is such attractive real estate is Global Warming. China wants it too.
The great danger is that we reach a tipping point beyond which even zero emissions won’t save us. When the last Christian dies, he will have murdered Jesus.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostThe reason that Greenland is such attractive real estate is Global Warming. China wants it too.
The great danger is that we reach a tipping point beyond which even zero emissions won’t save us. When the last Christian dies, he will have murdered Jesus.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostAnd the truth is those complaining about the royals just find them a convenient distraction from the problem, which is the rise in co2 which is driving temeratures up.
A rich person's potential hypocrisy is mostly meaningless in terms of the actual problem and its solution.
Like others here, I am bewildered by your fervid defense of hypocrisy.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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