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  • #16
    Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
    the neocons and neolibs so enthusiastic about the wonders of international free trade and globalism
    Enthusiasm for globalism has not been limited to the neocons on the right. Until the recent rise of the alt-right, pretty much the entire right-wing establishment has been pro-globalism for the past 50 years.

    Whereas on the 'left' it was very much limited to centrists / neoliberals like the Clintons.
    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      Until the recent rise of the alt-right, pretty much the entire right-wing establishment has been pro-globalism for the past 50 years.


      You ignore the right-wing non-establishment. Figures like Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan were very much anti-globalism.
      Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
        Figures like Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan were very much anti-globalism.
        Wow, a whole 2 of them, who are history now. And your Ron Paul example isn't correct. Ron Paul is very pro-free trade and has spoken out vigorously against Trump's tariffs. He's opposed the various free-trade agreements over the years on the grounds they didn't go far enough in promoting the free trade he wanted.
        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
          Wow, a whole 2 of them, who are history now.
          There aren't many as the neocon Buckleyites purged real conservatives from the establishment. This isn't a secret, try to get informed for once.

          And your Ron Paul example isn't correct. Ron Paul is very pro-free trade and has spoken out vigorously against Trump's tariffs. He's opposed the various free-trade agreements over the years on the grounds they didn't go far enough in promoting the free trade he wanted.
          Ron Paul is a bit of a mixed bag.

          No North American Union; no WTO; no UN
          Q: Will you abolish all plans to promote economic integration of North America?
          A: Not only do I not want a North American Union, I want us out of the U.N., the IMF, the World Bank, the WTO, NAFTA and CAFTA. https://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Ron_Paul_Free_Trade.htm
          Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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          • #20
            A possible silver lining...

            Globalists May Soon Become an Extinct Species

            The disruptions caused by the spread of the coronavirus mean supply chains will be moved closer to home rather than in foreign lands.

            https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...xtinct-species
            Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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            • #21
              Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
              There aren't many as the neocon Buckleyites purged real conservatives from the establishment. This isn't a secret, try to get informed for once.



              Ron Paul is a bit of a mixed bag.
              Buckley also purged the white supremacists, but they managed to hold on. Conservatism did not depend on the National Review for existence.

              "Real" conservatives?

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              • #22
                I think moving everything back to the USA (something Trump has been trying to do for 4 years now) will be good for America. Might be bad for China who depends on trade with the western world. Maybe if their economy collapses, it will be the end of communism. It can't survive without the influx of cash from capitalism.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                  Italy asking for help from Europe and getting it only from Russia and China
                  Fixed.



                  From Russia with love!
                  Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                    Fixed.



                    From Russia with love!
                    The EU is sending all of it's aid coming from China, the source of the outbreak, to Italy. Russia has very few cases of the virus to deal with at home. Good politics or altruism?
                    Last edited by JimL; 03-22-2020, 08:03 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by JimL View Post
                      Good politics or altruism?
                      Love?
                      Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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