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Chloroquine: The cure for covid-19?

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  • #16
    Originally posted by QuantaFille View Post
    That doesn't make sense. We already inoculate for plenty of diseases so that we don't have to deal with treating them anymore. Why get sick if you don't have to? Especially if it's something you'd have to take sick days for (even with a cure)?
    Again. Do we subject millions of people with a vaccine which may have side effects for something that can be treated on the smaller number of people? Or do we hook up everyone on a ventilator just in case something may come up that causes them to have difficulty breathing?

    We don't have a cure for every sickness before it happens. The Coronavirus can be something that we only see once in a hundred years.

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    • #17
      You are putting many carts before the horse. A vaccine is not developed yet, nor do we know how effective it is or its side effect, let alone whether it should become mandatory or not.

      Flu kills a lot of old people and there's no mandatory vaccination. Relax.
      Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
        We shouldn't be rushing to a future untested vaccine to save all humanity.
        A major reason the vaccine is going to take so long to be produced for everyone is because they do have to do a whole lot of testing for it. By the time it officially comes out it won't be "untested."

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        • #19
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          • #20
            Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
            Again. Do we subject millions of people with a vaccine which may have side effects for something that can be treated on the smaller number of people?
            This is a false dichotomy. We can't currently treat it any other way other than putting it people in respirators, which has significant effects on the people going through it. Furthermore the treatment you're proposing is highly toxic and far worse than any purported side effects or extremely rare allergic responses to vaccines.

            The Coronavirus can be something that we only see once in a hundred years.
            On the contrary, it exists in the animal population. There is a natural reservoir for this virus. This is unlike Polio, where we can be certain that it is gone because it only ever existed in the human population.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
              This is a false dichotomy. We can't currently treat it any other way other than putting it people in respirators, which has significant effects on the people going through it. Furthermore the treatment you're proposing is highly toxic and far worse than any purported side effects or extremely rare allergic responses to vaccines.



              On the contrary, it exists in the animal population. There is a natural reservoir for this virus. This is unlike Polio, where we can be certain that it is gone because it only ever existed in the human population.
              you have a lot of conclusions for something that has just come to the attention of scientists.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                We can't currently treat it any other way other than putting it people in respirators, which has significant effects on the people going through it.
                Inaccurate. Those people making up Fake News about Trump and chloroquine fail to mention that China, Korea, and Italy have found it useful enough to recommend it as treatment for coronavirus patients.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                  This is a false dichotomy. We can't currently treat it any other way other than putting it people in respirators, which has significant effects on the people going through it. Furthermore the treatment you're proposing is highly toxic and far worse than any purported side effects or extremely rare allergic responses to vaccines.



                  On the contrary, it exists in the animal population. There is a natural reservoir for this virus. This is unlike Polio, where we can be certain that it is gone because it only ever existed in the human population.
                  Coronaviruses are a group of viruses. Taxonomically, an actual subfamily. IIRC, both SARS and MER are types of coronavirus.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                    SARS and MER are types of coronavirus.
                    The current coronavirus responsible for coronavirus disease 2019 (covid-19) is named SARS-CoV-2.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                      Oh right. We rush to market medicine that has been used for 80 years. And we simply disregard the insight of Dr. Didier Raoult, MD, an Infectious Disease specialist.

                      Also, the use of intraveneous Vitamin C is being used in China to heal people.

                      We don't have to try to innoculate billions of people for something that can be treated sufficiently well.

                      No drug is completely safe. This drug has a host of side effects, including blindness and death. And there are various interactions with over 300 drugs. People just taking this drug like candy would end up harming more people than it could save. And there is no proof it works yet.

                      https://www.drugs.com/sfx/chloroquine-side-effects.html

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                        So it is best to get healed of diabetes before such pandemics occur.
                        get healed form diabetes? The only "healing" would be for type 1's with a pancreas transplant. You can only live with diabetes, not heal it.

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                        • #27
                          As Trump touts an unproven coronavirus treatment, supplies evaporate for patients who need those drugs

                          Arizona man dies after self-medicating with chloroquine to treat coronavirus

                          So, maybe we should hold off on promoting this for a bit.

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                          • #28
                            Yup...
                            'Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure': Woman whose husband died after ingesting chloroquine warns the public not to 'believe anything that the president says':

                            The wife of an Arizona man who died after ingesting chloroquine phosphate to protect himself from the coronavirus warned the public on Monday not to “believe anything that the president says” and rely on doctors instead.

                            “We saw Trump on TV – every channel – and all of his buddies and that this was safe,” the woman, who is in critical care after taking the drug with her husband, told NBC News’ Vaughn Hillyard. “Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure.”

                            The president has repeatedly touted chloroquine as a “very powerful” treatment against coronavirus and falsely claimed it was approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                              Yup...
                              'Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure': Woman whose husband died after ingesting chloroquine warns the public not to 'believe anything that the president says':

                              The wife of an Arizona man who died after ingesting chloroquine phosphate to protect himself from the coronavirus warned the public on Monday not to “believe anything that the president says” and rely on doctors instead.

                              “We saw Trump on TV – every channel – and all of his buddies and that this was safe,” the woman, who is in critical care after taking the drug with her husband, told NBC News’ Vaughn Hillyard. “Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure.”

                              The president has repeatedly touted chloroquine as a “very powerful” treatment against coronavirus and falsely claimed it was approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

                              Trumpism is lethal
                              Well if Jesus told me something was safe, I would certainly believe it.

                              But if a real estate mogul and reality TV star with a history of dubious projects and methods dispensed medical advice......

                              A conservative who likely has a low view of "establishment" elites, politicians, and distrusts normal information methods (MSM) would take advice from Trump? It is the antivaxxers who have really glommed onto this quinine cure. We already have chloroquine resistant malaria, will mass use affect drug resistant strains?

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                              • #30
                                It's a prescription medication so how are the supplies "evaporating?"

                                They can track prescriptions and if unscrupulous doctors are overprescribing they should be arrested for drug trafficking.

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