New 'Adversity Score' a Backdoor to Racial Quotas

[Cow Poke]

New 'Adversity Score' a Backdoor to Racial Quotas

[KingsGambit]

That sort of thing (I'm thinking more socioeconomic position than race) should be considered for scholarships, not for admission. It's reasonable to want to give a bright student who comes from a poor family assistance in paying for their education. But if the money barrier is gone, I don't see why they would need additional help in getting in in the first place.

[Cow Poke]

That sort of thing (I'm thinking more socioeconomic position than race) should be considered for scholarships, not for admission. It's reasonable to want to give a bright student who comes from a poor family assistance in paying for their education. But if the money barrier is gone, I don't see why they would need additional help in getting in in the first place.

Yeah!

[One Bad Pig]

Law firms tend to be very committed to diversity, and at lower levels they're pretty diverse. However, people admitted based on diversity tend to be less effective at writing legal arguments crucial to winning a case, so they're given fewer opportunities to do so. As a result, the upper ranks at law firms are not nearly as diverse, because promotion has to be merit-based if the law firm wants to survive.

[Mountain Man]

I work a lot of cooperate events, and I find it ironic that the "chief diversity officer" at the vast majority of companies are black women. That doesn't seem particularly diverse.

[Bill the Cat]

subsidizing intelligence?

[Sparko]

That sort of thing (I'm thinking more socioeconomic position than race) should be considered for scholarships, not for admission. It's reasonable to want to give a bright student who comes from a poor family assistance in paying for their education. But if the money barrier is gone, I don't see why they would need additional help in getting in in the first place.

agreed. Underprivileged and poor students need financial help.

But this whole SAT thing seems racist.

The point of the SAT score is how intelligent and ready for college a student is. If they just let in students with low scores, then what's the point of having the test in the first place?

[tabibito]

Or where a person has lower scores that really have been induced by circumstances, use the "adversity scores" to run them through a bridging course so that they can get up to speed on the real academic requirements, perhaps.

[One Bad Pig]

Or where a person has lower scores that really have been induced by circumstances, use the "adversity scores" to run them through a bridging course so that they can get up to speed on the real academic requirements, perhaps.

Bridging courses, as you term them, are common at colleges these days, because a high school education so often does not sufficiently prepare a student for the next level.

[KingsGambit]

Bridging courses, as you term them, are common at colleges these days, because a high school education so often does not sufficiently prepare a student for the next level.

Some of the more affluent high schools around here are now offering intensive pre-career study programs, such as aerospace engineering. I know of one student who intended to study that at Embry-Riddle, and was told not to enter the program in high school because the professors would just end up re-teaching everything the high school program got wrong.

[Sparko]

We need to stop pushing college as the only path. Half of the kids who graduate college can't get jobs and are in debt for the rest of their lives. Trade schools and apprenticeships are another path. Much less cost and you can get into very well paying careers.

[tabibito]

We need to stop pushing college as the only path. Half of the kids who graduate college can't get jobs and are in debt for the rest of their lives. Trade schools and apprenticeships are another path. Much less cost and you can get into very well paying careers.

That too.

[Zymologist]

College is overrated.

-a college graduate

[Bill the Cat]

We need to stop pushing college as the only path. Half of the kids who graduate college can't get jobs and are in debt for the rest of their lives. Trade schools and apprenticeships are another path. Much less cost and you can get into very well paying careers.

My 2 girls just graduated, one with a BS and one with a BA. Neither has even a prospect of a job. And the BA grad says that her college lists those who graduated and their current job... only 8% have jobs in their field.

[Cow Poke]

My 2 girls just graduated, one with a BS and one with a BA. Neither has even a prospect of a job. And the BA grad says that her college lists those who graduated and their current job... only 8% have jobs in their field.

Unfortunately, many employers will look at that degree and think, "hmmm... overqualified... NEXT!"