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  • Do Peter Strzok and the democrats think America is stupid?

    When he refuses to answer questions on the advise of the FBI counsel about the on going Mueller investigation put to him by the Republican congressmen but will answer the questions about that same investigation that the Democrat congressmen ask? Give me a break he trying to take the fifth without taking the fifth while attempting to do as much damage to the current Administration as he can figuring out the Democrats will have his back.

    The American people barring a few useful idiots in the MSM and here are not that stupid to see what is going on here. and they wont' like it the Democrats better stop playing politics here and start trying to get to the truth.

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    The sad truth is that the roughly 50% of voters who supported Hillary really are that stupid.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    • #3
      Prior to watching him testify I thought that Obama and Trump had to be the most arrogantly pompous people in the country.

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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      • #4
        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        Prior to watching him testify I thought that Obama and Trump had to be the most arrogantly pompous people in the country.
        Watching his opening statement for the hearing was eye-opening... I don't think he could have appeared any more angry and arrogant, including his insistence that he was there of his own free will, and not subject to subpoena.

        I forget which of the committee members said it, but "sir, you are your own worst enemy". I think same is true for Obama and Trump. And Hillary.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          Watching his opening statement for the hearing was eye-opening... I don't think he could have appeared any more angry and arrogant, including his insistence that he was there of his own free will, and not subject to subpoena.

          I forget which of the committee members said it, but "sir, you are your own worst enemy". I think same is true for Obama and Trump. And Hillary.
          He seemed like a villain right out of Hollywood typecasting. You know the despicable one who angrily shouts how he's really the hero

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • #6
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            He seemed like a villain right out of Hollywood typecasting. You know the despicable one who angrily shouts how he's really the hero
            ...and constantly reminds us how virtuous and honorable he is, and that he has absolutely no bias.

            And, speaking of Hollywood - he's quite an actor, cause he said that last bit with a straight face!
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              He seemed like a villain right out of Hollywood typecasting. You know the despicable one who angrily shouts how he's really the hero
              I don't know. I was really impressed by the GOP senator that took "Hillary should win 100,000,000 to zero" literally. And then went on to expound when strzok said it was hyperbole that even if we divide it by 10 we still get 0 for the trump vote. Not quite getting the fact he entire statement was hyperbole and not just the individual numbers.

              So my real question is. FBI workers are not allowed to have private opinions? And they can't express them privately (last I heard texting someone else on a cell phone is a more or less private conversation). And Every law enforcement official in the land can't have any sort of opinions about the cases they investigate? To be fair, an FBI agent should know text message can be extracted if necessary. Although they probably didn't really expect anyone would actually go after those opinions when they were sharing them. You know, the right to vote and all.

              But I'll bet FBI agents don't use text for much beyond a grocery list these days.

              It is - in fact - a mark of a professional that a professional does not allow their personal opinions to influence the work they do. Or is this a myth? And if this is impossible to do, then shouldn't we then shut down law enforcement entirely, since clearly they can't be expected to act in an unbiased manner on any case they have an opinion about? Yes? But if that is the case, then how do all those border and consulate workers turn away all those battered women seeking shelter. They must all be really horrible people if they must be acting based on their personal opinions to do that.

              ----

              It's all a bit nuts I think. And mostly just a show to try to get the Mueller investigation shut down.

              Jim
              Last edited by oxmixmudd; 07-12-2018, 06:45 PM.
              My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

              If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

              This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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              • #8
                Originally posted by RumTumTugger View Post
                When he refuses to answer questions on the advise of the FBI counsel about the on going Mueller investigation put to him by the Republican congressmen but will answer the questions about that same investigation that the Democrat congressmen ask? Give me a break he trying to take the fifth without taking the fifth while attempting to do as much damage to the current Administration as he can figuring out the Democrats will have his back.

                The American people barring a few useful idiots in the MSM and here are not that stupid to see what is going on here. and they wont' like it the Democrats better stop playing politics here and start trying to get to the truth.
                Strzok didn't believe you were that stupid until after you actually elected Trump. I think now that yes, he probably does think that you are that stupid, though he'd never admit to it publicly. Personally I haven't decided if it's just plain stupidity or something else.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RumTumTugger View Post
                  Do Peter Strzok and the democrats think America is stupid?
                  I do. I doubt they do though.

                  It's amusing to see the Republicans play "Benghazi!" type games over this guy who's private messages reveal disliked Hillary, Trump and Bernie.

                  At this point the Republicans reek of desperation as they try and find any possible justification for getting Trump off the Mueller hook.
                  "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                  "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                  "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                  • #10
                    A man who was claiming that Hillary, who he was investigating, needed to be elected and said Trump, before any investigation started, needed to be impeached. Yet he wasn't biased.

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      A man who was claiming that Hillary, who he was investigating, needed to be elected and said Trump, before any investigation started, needed to be impeached. Yet he wasn't biased.
                      He swore so under oath!
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #12
                        As someone who increasingly can't stand either party, I thought it was a sad day to watch all involved act the way they did.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          A man who was claiming that Hillary, who he was investigating, needed to be elected and said Trump, before any investigation started, needed to be impeached. Yet he wasn't biased.
                          Strzok's treatment by the Trump Defence Team, masquerading as a House Enquiry, was absolutely disgraceful. Everybody has personal political views. There is no reason to think that Peter Strzok's personal views affected any of his decisions in either the Hillary Clinton email investigation or the Trump-Russia probe. His only mistake was that he used a government issued official phone to express his personal views. For this he was quite rightly sacked by Mueller.
                          “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                            There is no reason to think that Peter Strzok's personal views affected any of his decisions in either the Hillary Clinton email investigation or the Trump-Russia probe.
                            If he'd been out to get Trump, he could have anonymously leaked to the media about the existence of the Trump-Russia investigation at any time during the run-up to the general election. The media was going ballistic about Clinton's emails, and as far as the country knew, only 1 candidate for president was being investigated by the FBI. It was obviously poor judgement on Comey's part to leave the US public with that impression. But had Strzok wanted to act, he could so, so, easily have let the media know Trump was also under investigation and then watched them go ballistic.

                            His only mistake was that he used a government issued official phone to express his personal views. For this he was quite rightly sacked by Mueller.
                            I don't think his sacking was justifiable. His texts showed he disliked Clinton, Sanders, and Trump as politicians. To me, that doesn't meet the bar for getting rid of someone. Texting on a government phone is a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket offense, not a firing one.

                            The law enforcement person that there does need to be an investigation into for bias affecting judgment is Rudy Giuliani who was able to exercise control over law enforcement in the NY area, all but whipping the FBI agents there into a frenzied hatred of Clinton, to the point where FBI director Republican James Comey was almost unable to keep any sort of leash on that rogue branch of his agency. The NY FBI's anti-Clinton malice and bias and Giuliani's role in that warrants investigation.

                            It's also worth bearing firmly in mind that the US's law-enforcement agencies are Republican-heavy. They're not full of Democrats. The FBI, like most local police forces, is full of Republicans.
                            Last edited by Starlight; 07-13-2018, 02:24 AM.
                            "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                            "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                            "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Raptor View Post
                              As someone who increasingly can't stand either party, I thought it was a sad day to watch all involved act the way they did.
                              It was quite a ruckus.

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