Trump proposes injecting people with disinfectant to kill Coronavirus

[RumTumTugger]

I'm guessing you legit think you're the one of us who deals with reality rather than the imaginary.

Well since you believe that Stalin who was a socialist was right wing it would seem you are the one that does not deal with reality at all Starlight

[shunyadragon]

Where did Trump get his recommendations to use bleach to cure the COVID 19 infection?

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/24/revealed-leader-group-peddling-bleach-cure-lobbied-trump-coronavirus

Revealed: leader of group peddling bleach as coronavirus 'cure' wrote to Trump this week

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[MaxVel]

(skip to 30 seconds)

No, don't do that. Listen to the whole clip - it's not long - to get a fuller context.

https://twitter.com/PoliticusSarah/s...50176510992384

What have you go to lose? Try it and see if it works!

For the sarcastically impaired the following is said in jest

Yeah, because in a world crisis, it's insane to ask experts to look into all possibilities, even ones that seem crazy at first glance.

Trump asked a question of someone at a briefing - turning to his right and asking the person, whose responses aren't really audible. From the context of the start of the clip, (the bit you don't want us to listen to) there's been some discussion of possible (new? unusual?) treatments for Covid-19.




"So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous.. uh whether it's ultraviolet or just a very powerful light... and I think you said that hasn't been checked, but we're gonna test it, {turning to his right, addressing the previous speaker} and then I said supposing we brought the light inside the body, which you can do, either through the skin or , uh, in some other way...."

Context: Trump is responding to a previous speaker, or an expert / scientist / medical person / someone else - note the questions addressed to someone off screen to Trump's right.
He talks about the possibility of treating Covid-19 by using something that kills it inside the body (later clarified he's talking about inside the lungs).


He then moves from talking about light as a way to kill the virus to raising the possibility "..is there a way...?" of using something else that kills the virus - disinfectant - in a way similar to light - somehow getting it into the lungs to kill the virus there.


"...And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that? Uh... by injection inside, or almost a cleaning {gestures in a wiping motion} 'cause you see it gets in the lungs and .. does a tremendous number and it would be interesting to check that and also you're going to have to use medical doctors but it sounds interesting to me. {turning back to the microphone, downturned mouth expression}


{emphasis added}

Conclusion: 'Trump proposes that people inject themselves with disinfectant to kill Covid-19' = Fake News



Actual story: Trump asks experts if it's possible to treat Covid-19 internally in the lungs, with light (e.g. UV light) or disinfectant (i.e. a.chemical agent that kills the virus)



Conclusion: Not the smartest of suggestions, but it's a line of thought that might be fruitful - perhaps it is possible to do something internally in the lungs to help with treatment.

[simplicio]

Stop it. Fish tank cleaning chemicals are NOT the same as medicine, and no one can be held liable for other people's bad decisions made out of ignorance or just...not thinking.

I think the fish tank chemicals are the same as the medicine, though might not be quite as pure. WHich is why the antibiotics used to spray orchards or feed livestock was snatched up during the anthrax scare, a tactic promoted by Alex Jones and other preppers.

The difficulty came in converting the dosage to something appropriate for humans. Apparently, the problem was from the overdose, not any impurities in the fish tank chemical. Over doses are problematic because they amplify the side effects of a drug, and the drug was promoted for its lack of side effects.

There is a reason that pharmaceuticals advertisements always put in the disclaimer about consulting the doctor for the appropriateness of using the drug in your situation as well for the potential side effects.

[simplicio]

Is anyone likely to ingest cleaning products from listening to Donald Trump pontificate on medical topics?

Poison Control in NYC reports more calls about that.https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavi...a5m-story.html

People do look to leaders to ....lead. What they say ought not be treated casually.

Make America Great Again! Trump 2020. Make America Rake again! Trump 2020. Make America Great again by ingesting cleaning products! Trump 2020.

Make America great again: just who should we vote for?

[simplicio]

Fauci and Brix were absent from the Trump campaign rally, ummm, press conference. Maybe they were wondering what their legacy will be.

They consult and inform the President. Are they successful and competent? Is dodging and ducking the president's intemperate* remarks part of their job, and is it anything they have needed to do previously in their careers?

Do they have the credentials to do their jobs? If their jobs were principally informing US pandemic policy, then I would say yes. But if their job is to prop up the chaotic, amateurish policies of trump's White House, then maybe they ought to question whether they would best serve the nation by resigning.

[EvoUK]

It's high time the man was imbleached

[shunyadragon]

No, don't do that. Listen to the whole clip - it's not long - to get a fuller context.

For the sarcastically impaired the following is said in jest

Yeah, because in a world crisis, it's insane to ask experts to look into all possibilities, even ones that seem crazy at first glance.

Trump asked a question of someone at a briefing - turning to his right and asking the person, whose responses aren't really audible. From the context of the start of the clip, (the bit you don't want us to listen to) there's been some discussion of possible (new? unusual?) treatments for Covid-19.




"So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous.. uh whether it's ultraviolet or just a very powerful light... and I think you said that hasn't been checked, but we're gonna test it, {turning to his right, addressing the previous speaker} and then I said supposing we brought the light inside the body, which you can do, either through the skin or , uh, in some other way...."

Context: Trump is responding to a previous speaker, or an expert / scientist / medical person / someone else - note the questions addressed to someone off screen to Trump's right.
He talks about the possibility of treating Covid-19 by using something that kills it inside the body (later clarified he's talking about inside the lungs).


He then moves from talking about light as a way to kill the virus to raising the possibility "..is there a way...?" of using something else that kills the virus - disinfectant - in a way similar to light - somehow getting it into the lungs to kill the virus there.


"...And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that? Uh... by injection inside, or almost a cleaning {gestures in a wiping motion} 'cause you see it gets in the lungs and .. does a tremendous number and it would be interesting to check that and also you're going to have to use medical doctors but it sounds interesting to me. {turning back to the microphone, downturned mouth expression}


{emphasis added}

Conclusion: 'Trump proposes that people inject themselves with disinfectant to kill Covid-19' = Fake News



Actual story: Trump asks experts if it's possible to treat Covid-19 internally in the lungs, with light (e.g. UV light) or disinfectant (i.e. a.chemical agent that kills the virus)



Conclusion: Not the smartest of suggestions, but it's a line of thought that might be fruitful - perhaps it is possible to do something internally in the lungs to help with treatment.

Read post #62 it is not fake news.

[MaxVel]

Read post #62 it is not fake news.

Read post #63. Yes it is. Not a substantive response. You've uncritically swallowed the media narrative without thinking about what Trump actually said.

[Sparko]

This is basic knowledge. Like bottom level stuff. The reason these chemicals work is that they kill living things. Including humans if they ingest it.

right. but you know, thinking about it, we do use toxic chemicals injected into bodies to fight disease. That is what chemo-therapy is. The hope is that it kills the cancer before it kills you.

[MaxVel]

It's high time the man was imbleached

Many voters are becoming increasingly disinfected with Trump.

[Sparko]

I have zero interest in trying to find and imbibe a video of the briefing in which Bad Orange Man commanded people to drink the Lysol and Clorox cocktail. Is there a transcript I can read?

https://factba.se/transcript/donald-...-april-23-2020

[Sparko]

Where did Trump get his recommendations to use bleach to cure the COVID 19 infection?

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/24/revealed-leader-group-peddling-bleach-cure-lobbied-trump-coronavirus

Revealed: leader of group peddling bleach as coronavirus 'cure' wrote to Trump this week

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Pure yellow journalism.

They are using innuendo and sensationalism to sell papers. Well, they are a tabloid, so I guess that is what they do.

Notice they have no evidence that Trump read any such letter. The chances that his staff would pass such a letter on to him or he would have time to read it are negligable.

Then they pretend that his reason for mentioning the disinfectant is "obscure" - no it wasn't! He was directly talking to Bryan who just finished talking about using disinfectant to kill the virus on surfaces. Sure, it was stupid, but there is absolutely ZERO evidence that Trump even heard of this nutjob. Crap like this is why nobody listens to you liberals. You uncritically post the worst sort of nonsense and conspiracy theories about Trump.

Just stop.

[MaxVel]

https://factba.se/transcript/donald-...-april-23-2020

The part we're talking about is around the 24 minute mark. Read in the full context, it's pretty conclusive. Trump asks a question of the DHS Head of Science and Technology Directorate, Bill Bryan, who has been talking about the effects of temperature, sunlight, disinfectants etc on the virus.


"And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning."


In context, he's referring to injecting something - a chemical that we already know kills the virus - into the lungs of a patient, to kill the virus there. Trump is asking a technical expert "Is that possible?". It's probably not, but all he was doing was asking IF it was.


He is NOT saying 'people should be injected (into their bloodstream) with disinfectant. That's a complete distortion of the quote in it's actual context. A lie, actually.

[shunyadragon]

Read post #63. Yes it is. Not a substantive response. You've uncritically swallowed the media narrative without thinking about what Trump actually said.

Yeah! When there is no coherent honest response it is the generic 'fake news.'