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  • #31
    Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Trump digs his own holes with his words every day. Just look at his ridiculous reference to the Trail of Tears! And you accuse me of lacking objectivity.

    With Trump, to not find something worthy of criticism in his words, you have to place your brain and your conscience in cold storage!

    Jim
    And maybe if you stuck to those instead of conspiracy theories, more would take you seriously?
    "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
    GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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    • #32
      Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
      And maybe if you stuck to those instead of conspiracy theories, more would take you seriously?
      Right!

      Jim
      My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

      If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

      This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
        That's RIGHT field! I leave left field to anti-Trump kooks like you.
        Touche!*

        Jim

        *I'm no more a left fielder that Ron Reagan or GW Bush was. Trump is just so far out in the nutty right corner that normal to moderate conservatives look 'left field' to you.
        My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

        If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

        This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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        • #34
          Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
          Touche!*

          Jim

          *I'm no more a left fielder that Ron Reagan or GW Bush was. Trump is just so far out in the nutty right corner that normal to moderate conservatives look 'left field' to you.
          That's a nice theory and all, but Trump was a registered Democrat until fairly recently. That you're attempting to paint him as some sort of right-wing extremist speaks volumes. By your own admission, you never really ventured into politics here until Trump came along. Your conservative bona fides here are, shalll we say, somewhat lacking.
          Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

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          • #35
            Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
            That's a nice theory and all, but Trump was a registered Democrat until fairly recently. That you're attempting to paint him as some sort of right-wing extremist speaks volumes. By your own admission, you never really ventured into politics here until Trump came along. Your conservative bona fides here are, shalll we say, somewhat lacking.
            Outside of possibly a more liberal position on gun control, I can't think offhand of any political positions I've seen from oxmixmudd that would make him "more a left fielder than Ron Reagan or GW Bush was."

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            • #36
              Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
              That's a nice theory and all, but Trump was a registered Democrat until fairly recently. That you're attempting to paint him as some sort of right-wing extremist speaks volumes. By your own admission, you never really ventured into politics here until Trump came along. Your conservative bona fides here are, shalll we say, somewhat lacking.
              I am not a trump supporter, therefore i am a 'liberal'

              you are so funny!


              Jim
              My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

              If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

              This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                Trump is trolling the democrats. Because he can. And he knows that even if there is nothing in there, they would find a way to find something to complain about.
                You give the ignorant buffoon too much credit for thinking strategically. He doesn't. He is just a crook hiding his tax returns because they most probably contain information damaging to him.
                “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                  Touche!*

                  Jim

                  *I'm no more a left fielder that Ron Reagan or GW Bush was. Trump is just so far out in the nutty right corner that normal to moderate conservatives look 'left field' to you.
                  Trump is far more a populist than he is a conservative.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                    Right, that's why Dirty Cop Mueller's mandate did not specify a crime to be investigated, and he's been set loose like a rabid mongrel to snap at anything that moves.
                    Mueller is doing a very difficult job very well and he will be hailed as America’s Saviour in due course. And Trump, the Prince of Darkness, will be vanquished forever. This is a fight of good against evil. For some reason you have chosen to take the wrong side.
                    “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                    “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                    “not all there” - you know who you are

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                      Trump digs his own holes with his words every day. Just look at his ridiculous reference to the Trail of Tears! And you accuse me of lacking objectivity.

                      With Trump, to not find something worthy of criticism in his words, you have to place your brain and your conscience in cold storage!

                      Jim
                      Yup he constantly screws up and exaggerates. For him, like your typical New Yorker from Queens or the Bronx, everything is the biggest, the best etc. (a characteristic also often associated with Texans) and he gets hammered for it as well.

                      Look at that White House lunch during the shutdown where hamburgers and pizza were served. In typical Trumpian fashion he declared they had burgers stacked "a mile high." Now anyone not suffering from TDS would clearly understand this was hyperbole. But not the Washington Post which literally fact checked the statement and now it is listed as one of his lies.

                      During the SOTU he said that a third ("one in three") of the women and girls illegally crossing the border end up getting sexually assaulted. Now according to Amnesty International the number is closer to 60% and one study even puts the number as high as 80%, but Politico followed by the Washington Post cited statistics indicating that the number is 31% so that they could call the claim false. Talk about your nitpicking. It is almost a given that every past president and every politician has used "one-third" or "one-half" rather than a specific fraction, and walked away without being fact-checked but with Trump rounding off like that gets called another lie.

                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        Yup he constantly screws up and exaggerates. For him, like your typical New Yorker from Queens or the Bronx, everything is the biggest, the best etc. (a characteristic also often associated with Texans) and he gets hammered for it as well.
                        Sure, smear two states worth of people to justify Trump's crazy.

                        Look at that White House lunch during the shutdown where hamburgers and pizza were served. In typical Trumpian fashion he declared they had burgers stacked "a mile high." Now anyone not suffering from TDS would clearly understand this was hyperbole. But not the Washington Post which literally fact checked the statement and now it is listed as one of his lies.
                        I'm going to give you a "mostly false" grade for you for this claim. Contrary to your assertion it is not listed by them in their fact-checkers' complete database of Trump lies. I see no reason to think that anyone at WaPo thought Trump's statement anything but hyperbole, and thus I see that part of your claim as being false as well.

                        The origin of your incorrect views presumably stems from this guy's rambling opinion piece about the hamburger dinner at the White House and he, the author of the opinion piece, not the WaPo fact checker team, writes tongue in cheek at the end of the article that he 'fact checked' Trump's mile-high claim and it isn't true. It is not recorded in the general WaPo fact check database. There's no particular reason to think the writer of the article actually took Trump's mile-high claim seriously as the article is playful in tone.

                        During the SOTU he said that a third ("one in three") of the women and girls illegally crossing the border end up getting sexually assaulted. Now according to Amnesty International the number is closer to 60% and one study even puts the number as high as 80%, but Politico followed by the Washington Post cited statistics indicating that the number is 31% so that they could call the claim false. Talk about your nitpicking. It is almost a given that every past president and every politician has used "one-third" or "one-half" rather than a specific fraction, and walked away without being fact-checked but with Trump rounding off like that gets called another lie.
                        I'm going to give you a "mostly false" for this one as well.

                        Neither their fact check at the time nor the entry in their fact check database has any nitpicking whatever about 31% not being one-third. That is just you making stuff up. Their entire reason for finding his statement false was their complete rejection of his numbers as true, as they reject the validity and relevance of the 31% 'study' that was cited in his defense of that number.


                        If you want to pretend to us that it's the 'fake news' that's full of falsehoods, you need to be a more reliable messenger. When most of the stuff you write on TWeb in general is mostly false, people are hardly going to believe you when you claim it's totally the media that's full of falsehoods.
                        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                          Right!

                          Jim
                          Another assertion. Nice, don’t you have a tin foil hat convention to attend?
                          "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                          GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                            You give the ignorant buffoon too much credit for thinking strategically. He doesn't. He is just a crook hiding his tax returns because they most probably contain information damaging to him.
                            I love how you guys want to paint him as a mastermind conspiracist with the russians and stupid at the same time.

                            The IRS has his tax returns. Do you think the IRS is any less likely to turn on him than the FBI was? If there was anything in those returns, don't you think they would have gone after him by now? After all that is how they got Al Capone. Why waste all this time with Mueller's investigation when they could just arrest him for tax fraud?

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                              I am not a trump supporter, therefore i am a 'liberal'

                              you are so funny!


                              Jim
                              Perhaps try not to put words in my mouth?
                              Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

                              Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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                              I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                                That's a nice theory and all, but Trump was a registered Democrat until fairly recently. That you're attempting to paint him as some sort of right-wing extremist speaks volumes. By your own admission, you never really ventured into politics here until Trump came along. Your conservative bona fides here are, shalll we say, somewhat lacking.
                                I would classify Trump as to the right of center. I suspect I'm further to the right then he is.
                                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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