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The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostUsually "truth" is simple and lies are complex.
So E=MC2 is truth...
And the bible is lies...
(errr... that's a joke. It just happens to follow from your logic)The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostOK, I cannot resist this...
So E=MC2 is truth...
And the bible is lies...
(errr... that's a joke. It just happens to follow from your logic)
The Bible contains many truths which are, indeed, simple.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostUsually "truth" is simple and lies are complex.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostMeh
The Bible contains many truths which are, indeed, simple.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostSpoilsportThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIt's my job, it's what I do.
Consider the bromance terminated...The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostOK, I cannot resist this...
So E=MC2 is truth...
And the bible is lies...
(errr... that's a joke. It just happens to follow from your logic)
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThe bible is not really that complex. It contains the story of God and of mankind from creation till the judgment. Pretty short for such a topic.
P.S. I'm just yanking your chain. I know you are not that simplistic.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostBut it's LONG...so it must be false. You said so! And E=MC2 is short - so it must be true!
P.S. I'm just yanking your chain. I know you are not that simplistic.
Ever watch COPS or LivePD? When they question someone and they start telling a crazy convoluted story that makes no sense? Someone telling the truth will just state the facts (most of the time) and the story will be pretty easy to follow. That's what I was getting at.Last edited by Sparko; 02-06-2018, 11:00 AM.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Ever watch COPS or LivePD? When they question someone and they start telling a crazy convoluted story that makes no sense? Someone telling the truth will just state the facts (most of the time) and the story will be pretty easy to follow. That's what I was getting at.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Ever watch COPS or LivePD? When they question someone and they start telling a crazy convoluted story that makes no sense? Someone telling the truth will just state the facts (most of the time) and the story will be pretty easy to follow. That's what I was getting at.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostBut to generalize the idea is a logical fallacy, IMO. We see this dynamic at work in many places: the gun control debate, climate science, religious discussions, etc. Sometimes, a lie is very simple, and it requires significant work/evidence to refute it.
And the BEST lies contain a vast majority of truth!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostA lie, repeated enough times, becomes "true".
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd the BEST lies contain a vast majority of truth!
Indeed, he brags about his effective use of it in "The Art of the Deal." I don't think the man is a liar simply because he does so with regularity. I think the man is a liar because he labels himself that way and considers it "acceptable."The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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