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  • #46
    Use of 'G-d', familiarity with the Talmud, and verbal skill. Simplicio, are you Jewish?

    Originally posted by simplicio View Post
    the Talmud (which teaches Jews are a superior race, according to Texe Mars)
    Well, that just sounds racist to me.
    Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
      Use of 'G-d', familiarity with the Talmud, and verbal skill. Simplicio, are you Jewish?



      Well, that just sounds racist to me.
      Is there anything at all inconsistent with the Christian faith with any of those three things?

      Is there anything about those things which restrict those three things to being Jewish?

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      • #48
        simplicio, did you know that direct answers actually possible? "Yes", "No", or "I don't want to talk about personal stuff" are all fine.
        Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
          simplicio, did you know that direct answers actually possible? "Yes", "No", or "I don't want to talk about personal stuff" are all fine.
          Why is that question even relevant? Is it acceptable for a Jew to leave the vowel out but not a Christian?

          Is a rudimentary understanding of the Talmud inconsistent with being Christian? Especially in a world when much of Christianity holds a special regard for Jews and Judaism.

          And this thread entertains the idea of what it means to be a Jew, as opposed to a Jew-in-name-only, as well as the hidden attitudes American Christians have toward Jews.

          But the most interesting part of your post was its association of verbal skill with being Jewish. Do you see verbal skill as an accidental or essential characteristic of being a Jew?!

          The direct answer to your post was made, and it was rather scathing. Are any of those things inconsistent with being a Christian? You did not answer that question.

          Might want to pick up a Mark Noll book and read it. A good place to start is The Scandal of the Evangelical Mind
          Last edited by simplicio; 01-18-2020, 03:30 AM.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by simplicio View Post
            Originally posted by demi-conservative
            simplicio, did you know that direct answers actually possible?
            Why is that question even relevant?
            Because almost all of your sentences end with a question mark. It is annoying to read.

            Is it acceptable for a Jew to leave the vowel out but not a Christian?
            No mention was made of it being acceptable, or unacceptable. Only whether you were Jewish.

            Is a rudimentary understanding of the Talmud inconsistent with being Christian?
            Not at all, it just correlates with being Jewish.

            Do you see verbal skill as an accidental or essential characteristic of being a Jew?!
            Many American Jews have a high cultural background. This correlates with high verbal skill.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by simplicio View Post
              Just what does Jewish in name only mean in any Christian context?
              I'd like to get an answer from those Christians here who think that term makes sense.

              I believe it is nonsense. Being Jewish is not something you can change, it is something you belong to, an ethnicity and a religion.

              Was David and the various Prophets really Jewish? Was Sen. Lieberman really Jewish?
              St. David the prophets in the scriptures were all Jewish. I don't know who Sen. Lieberman is.

              Or does being Jewish demand a specific set of political views?
              Being Jewish demands no specific set of political views.

              What does the "synagogue of satan" refer to?
              It is a reference in Revelation, where an account is made of a group causing strife. Considering the themes of Acts, where the early Jewish Christians were persecuted for their beliefs, it is not unlikely that this was a reference to the Sanhedrin.

              Does [this] refer to Jews who reject the Christ, as some Christians claim, or those opposed to the message of the Christian Church?
              Presumably both, though I believe it refers specifically to the Sanhedrin.

              Does it refer to those who accept the Talmud (which teaches Jews are a superior race, according to Texe Mars) and its teachings?
              That sounds racist.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by simplicio View Post
                Where does any ultimate loyalty lie for the Jew?

                Where does any ultimate loyalty lie for the Christian?
                God.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by simplicio View Post
                  the Talmud (which teaches Jews are a superior race, according to Texe Mars)
                  You've posted so much about racism, simplicio. Enlighten us further about this teaching in the Talmud.
                  Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                    You've posted so much about racism, simplicio. Enlighten us further about this teaching in the Talmud.
                    The quote you used referenced the teaching of a Christian, Text Marrs. There are many other Christians who are critical of the Talmud. And there are even more who teach on the general principle of those who reject Christ, on those who are critical of Christianity, on the disposition of the soul of those write such things or hold those things as part of their faith.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by simplicio View Post
                      The quote you used referenced the teaching of a Christian, Text Marrs. There are many other Christians who are critical of the Talmud. And there are even more who teach on the general principle of those who reject Christ, on those who are critical of Christianity, on the disposition of the soul of those write such things or hold those things as part of their faith.
                      sorry simplicio you need to do better then this to catch anyone

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by RumTumTugger View Post
                        sorry simplicio you need to do better then this to catch anyone
                        Is it really about "catching" someone? Texe Mars does have relatively few followers, but those ideas are not at all unique to Mars.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by simplicio View Post
                          Where does any ultimate loyalty lie for the Jew?

                          Where does any ultimate loyalty lie for the Christian?
                          God, and Jesus Christ the Messiah.
                          Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                            God, and Jesus Christ the Messiah.
                            Which brings up the question of how the great Saints Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, or King David, showed loyalty to Jesus the Christ (is Christ Jesus' surname?)

                            Where does Zionism fit into those answers?

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                            • #59
                              or King David
                              "The Lord said to my Lord..."

                              Where does Zionism fit into those answers?
                              Mere human effort, 'Unless the Lord builds the house,...'
                              Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                                "The Lord said to my Lord..."



                                Mere human effort, 'Unless the Lord builds the house,...'
                                Do you think that David was consciously Trinitarian?

                                So why do you think that some Christians see those sorts of Jews as Jews in name only? I suppose some can clearly discern the will of G-d, whether it has the vowel or the dreaded hyphen, and state with certainty which policies of the State of Israel are part of the ineffable divine plan.

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