I know the indigenous population of the Americas was decimated when European settlers came. But I've also heard that most of those deaths were due to disease. Does anyone know how many deaths were a direct result of combat/murder/massacres? What about the number of whites killed by Native Americans? I'm assuming the number of deaths from black/native combat is small compared to white/native combat, but maybe I'm wrong.
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Originally posted by stfoskey15 View PostI know the indigenous population of the Americas was decimated when European settlers came. But I've also heard that most of those deaths were due to disease. Does anyone know how many deaths were a direct result of combat/murder/massacres? What about the number of whites killed by Native Americans? I'm assuming the number of deaths from black/native combat is small compared to white/native combat, but maybe I'm wrong.
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Originally posted by stfoskey15 View PostI know the indigenous population of the Americas was decimated when European settlers came. But I've also heard that most of those deaths were due to disease. Does anyone know how many deaths were a direct result of combat/murder/massacres? What about the number of whites killed by Native Americans? I'm assuming the number of deaths from black/native combat is small compared to white/native combat, but maybe I'm wrong.A happy family is but an earlier heaven.
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Originally posted by Catholicity View PostIts hard to say. Their seems to be a high number related to small pox and other diseases, however at some point there is a high number due to refusal to convert to European religion/slavery. I need to look up the statistics or rather estimated statistics.
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Not enough.Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101
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Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View PostNot enough.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostWithout any records no credible numbers can be ascertained just WAGs.
The history of our relationship to the Native Americans preferred indirect methods like breaking existing treaties, providing small pox infected blankets, and destruction of resources, but some slaughter did in reality occur when confronted with resistance.Last edited by shunyadragon; 03-05-2017, 08:09 PM.
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I know the 18th century or the Trail of tears would have the best estimate for the Cherokee Tribe. However Smallpox and other diseases would be especially hard to estimate on the Taino and Arawak tribes. Aztec tribes seem to have gone extinct by intermarrying and death however some small pockets of Mayan Natives appear to exist in small pockets especially in the Mountains of Mexico and Incan tribes exist in small pockets in South America. Other extinct tribes it seems to be disease and war and we don't know which was more predominant. And then of course intermarriage. I've manage to trace a large line to Cherokee Natives after the trail of tears from North Carolina to Alabama and some mananged to stay in North Carolina because of Appearance so they didn't have to go on the trail.A happy family is but an earlier heaven.
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There are theories that the very early explorers released viruses into the Americas that wiped out a hundred million Indians.
I've read these theories as explanations for the supposed remains of extensive irrigation systems and so forth.
The idea is that the somewhat primitive Indians found later on were the remnant of a decimated civilization.Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101
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Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View PostThere are theories that the very early explorers released viruses into the Americas that wiped out a hundred million Indians.
I've read these theories as explanations for the supposed remains of extensive irrigation systems and so forth.
The idea is that the somewhat primitive Indians found later on were the remnant of a decimated civilization.
I'm always still in trouble again
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"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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Originally posted by Trout View PostThis thread seems to imply the killing has stopped.Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Postproviding small pox infected blankets"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
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