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[Sparko]

several groups, including the North American Man-Boy Love Association, were expelled from the International Lesbian and Gay Association, which declared that pedophilia was not consistent with its aims. But when asked by the United States to vouch that none of it members condoned such behavior, the International Lesbian and Gay Association said it could not.

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/09/18/wo...edophilia.html

[One Bad Pig]

This is interesting. I have been trying to find the date that ILGA accepted NAMBLA. I found - on a site I can't link to here because of profanity and other content - a link to ILGA's history, but when you try to go to that link....

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Yup --- The requested page "/about-us/1978-2007-a-chronology/" could not be found.

We know that ILGA was founded August 8, 1978, and NAMBLA was founded December 2 of that same year.

I think we have assumed that NAMBLA was accepted by ILGA in 1983, but it appears that ILGA was internally debating about pedophilia members all along.

Two other pedophile organizations were also members of ILGA - Project Truth/ Free Will and Vereniging Martijn.

According to an academic paper written in 1994...

Throughout the history of NAMBLA's membership, ILGA members have debated the validity of paedophile member groups, and the statement on Child Protection came closest to representing a firm stance on the issue. However, any decisions beyond this statement were not made.

So, not only does ILGA know that NAMBLA is a bunch of perverts, they're reconsidering the membership of at least two other pedophile member groups as well.

So much for "the fledgling ILGA had poor vetting processes".

Have you tried looking for the page at archive.org?

[Cow Poke]

Have you tried looking for the page at archive.org?

It was late and I was headed to bed.

It's not that big of a deal, since I've found other sources that support the fact that ILGA knew it had pedophilia organizations as members, and was debating along those 10 years about what to do. It was the outcry from Jesse Helms that caused them to decide to do something.

[Cow Poke]

Can you please use the quote function and show my actual statement?

http://ilga.org/ilga-ecosoc-status-controversy

After the fact, ILGA, caught red-handed with a bunch of perverts in their group, is naturally going to do the same thing you're doing -- putting lipstick on the pig.

They knew all along they had the pedophiles with them, and were debating what to do about it.

[Cow Poke]

Hmmm... weak point, call names.

It was inaugurated c.1978, i.e. around the same time ILGA began.

ILGA knew who they were, and accepted at least 2 other pedophile groups into their membership.

[Cow Poke]

If we accept Tass' premise then NAMBLA proceeded to somehow fool them for a decade. Really?

Yup, his argument boils down to "ILGA was made up of a bunch of really stupid people". A rather homophobic claim, I'd say.

[JimL]

Hmmm... weak point, call names.



ILGA knew who they were, and accepted at least 2 other pedophile groups into their membership.

Yeah, thats because, as you already know CP, LGBT people are all perverts who support pedophilia.

[Cow Poke]

Yeah, thats because, as you already know CP, LGBT people are all perverts who support pedophilia.

I'll have to take your word on how perverse LGBT people are, Jimmy, because I neither stated nor implied any such thing. But, we now have you on record condemning LGBT people.

And Tassy is on record implying they're really stupid, as well.

Good job, guys!

[Sparko]

Yeah, thats because, as you already know CP, LGBT people are all perverts who support pedophilia.

actually, at the time homosexuality was considered a perversion by most people so maybe they thought they would gang up with other groups that people thought were perverts and lobby to change their minds. The more groups they could incorporate the larger their numbers would be and the greater their influence. Then later when it became inconvenient they tossed them out because being gay had gotten more mainstream and they wanted to distance themselves from their previous buddies who were holding them back and making them look bad.

[Cow Poke]

actually, at the time homosexuality was considered a perversion by most people so maybe they thought they would gang up with other groups that people thought were perverts and lobby to change their minds. The more groups they could incorporate the larger their numbers would be and the greater their influence. Then later when it became inconvenient they tossed them out because being gay had gotten more mainstream and they didn't wanted to distance themselves from their previous buddies who were holding them back and making them look bad.

^ That!

And that would explain why there was consternation within the ranks of ILGA for the entire time those groups were members. Some of ILGA leadership probably knew it was a big mistake, but others were likely advocating for the "solidarity" of anti-establishment advocacy.

[Tassman]

After the fact, ILGA, caught red-handed with a bunch of perverts in their group, is naturally going to do the same thing you're doing -- putting lipstick on the pig.

They knew all along they had the pedophiles with them, and were debating what to do about it.

http://ilga.org/ilga-ecosoc-status-controversy

[Cow Poke]

Actually, I'm just citing facts. You're the one who seems desperate to put a spin on it.

[Tassman]

Actually, I'm just citing facts. You're the one who seems desperate to put a spin on it.

[Cow Poke]

And I posted them verbatim.

You're trying to prove a negative. You don't know that.

and these groups were expelled precisely because their aims were incompatible with those of ILGA.

That's not what the record shows. That's your interpretation. So, I post facts, you post opinions.

[Zymologist]

But according to JimL, NAMBLA's agenda is either unknown, or no big deal.