Active Shooter: A Christian?

[Cow Poke]

I think so.

I would hope that had I been in such a position - by being, for example, enslaved labour in a concentration camp - that if I could have extracted gold from the mouths of ten of the Nazi's victims before the Nazis got at it and used it to buy the life of the eleventh, I would have done so.

Apparently you would not.

I'd have to agree with this very carefully worded position.

[Cow Poke]

yeah that's what I meant. But I suspect its for safety reasons.

I think it's political.

[Cow Poke]

Yes, you are being a condescending jerk, but that's okay. Planned Parenthood is most well-known for providing abortion services. Because they do that, I'm not especially interested in whatever else they happen to provide - and since I'm not sexually active, they have absolutely nothing to provide for me anyway. I know they don't provide mammograms, despite protesting that they'll be less available if PP loses funding. I wasn't asking you to be my tutor - I was only asking a simple question. "Yes" would have sufficed, and been much easier to boot.

I think PP makes the trains run on time, too.

[Jedidiah]

"Yes" would have sufficed, and been much easier to boot.

But that would not have been snarky enough for him.

[Catholicity]

I think it's political.

How about both?

[Cow Poke]

How about both?

That works!

[One Bad Pig]

I'd have to agree with this very carefully worded position.

Of course, the Nazis would probably have been bright enough to realize the source of such gold and executed you for stealing it (not that gold would actually have set anyone free in that instance; at best it would extend one life at the expense of another).

[Cow Poke]

Of course, the Nazis would probably have been bright enough to realize the source of such gold and executed you for stealing it (not that gold would actually have set anyone free in that instance; at best it would extend one life at the expense of another).

Hey, I'm trying hard to agree with Roy on ANYTHING!

[Papa Zoom]

M

I think so.

I would hope that had I been in such a position - by being, for example, enslaved labour in a concentration camp - that if I could have extracted gold from the mouths of ten of the Nazi's victims before the Nazis got at it and used it to buy the life of the eleventh, I would have done so.

Apparently you would not.

To thwart their plans? Of course I would. But you are dodging the point I was making anyway.

[Roy]

Of course, the Nazis would probably have been bright enough to realize the source of such gold and executed you for stealing it (not that gold would actually have set anyone free in that instance; at best it would extend one life at the expense of another).

Oskar Schindler got people out of Auschwitz by bribing the authorities with diamonds. Why would gold not also have worked?

[Roy]

To thwart their plans? Of course I would. But you are dodging the point I was making anyway.

What point would that be? That abortion doctors are like Nazis? That negotiating with them would be like negotiating with Nazis?

Also it seems disingenuous for you to complain that I dodged your (unclear) point when you completely ignored mine.

Roy

[Juvenal]

waitaminute...

thats not gonna help.

If one believes abortion murders a living human being, how is it going to help if an organization mostly provides std tests or cancer screenings ,

what?

you're going to say, sure , they murder babies , buts only a few??

Actually, in a grown-up conversation (now that's what condescending looks like, OBP), I'd be asking questions, not providing answers to questions that shouldn't even have to be asked. I'd be asking for sources, and checking them, hoping to find something better than what I've found on my own.

If anyone remembers my one and only contribution to the abortion debate on TWeb, they should remember my focus on reducing the abortion rate. Pro tip: Using phrases like "murdering babies" does not help, or more properly, doesn't help in any sense that could draw open support.

The Toll of Violent Anti-Abortion Speech

Let's assume abortion opponents don't actually support terrorist tactics, just for the sake of promoting rational debate. Here's my topline question: Does PP prevent more abortions than they facilitate?

Nearly all abortions are from unplanned pregnancies that resulted from unprotected sex; half of all of those unplanned pregnancies result in abortions; PP provides ten times as many contraceptive services as abortions. Those numbers are rough, but good enough for an envelope calculation. Do the math.

Notice I didn't say perform, because that question answers itself. See above. I said facilitate because PP relies on referrals in major population centers, which, naturally, are where most abortions occur.

That's the discussion I'd like to see, but frankly, this being TWeb, in a thread devoted to stealthy defenses of the terrorism tactic, well ... let's just say I'm not holding out much hope.

[Juvenal]

Yes, you are being a condescending jerk, but that's okay. Planned Parenthood is most well-known for providing abortion services. Because they do that, I'm not especially interested in whatever else they happen to provide - and since I'm not sexually active, they have absolutely nothing to provide for me anyway. I know they don't provide mammograms, despite protesting that they'll be less available if PP loses funding. I wasn't asking you to be my tutor - I was only asking a simple question. "Yes" would have sufficed, and been much easier to boot.

There are folks on TWeb I expect will never look closely at any issue before posting about it. You're not one of them.

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/ab.../annual-report

[Catholicity]

There are folks on TWeb I expect will never look closely at any issue before posting about it. You're not one of them.

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/ab.../annual-report

I did try to get to this, it cannot be linked to it just spams with a ton of other reports...

[Jedidiah]

That's the discussion I'd like to see, but frankly, this being TWeb, in a thread devoted to stealthy defenses of the terrorism tactic, well ... let's just say I'm not holding out much hope.

I know you pride yourself on being the official jerk, but are you now trying to join the Jackass Society?