Coming soon to a forum near you.

A Catholic friend of mine looking into Orthodoxy posted the Orthodox fasting routines on GameFAQs, saying that it looked hard, but impressive and admirable.

The only person I'm nominating for a screwball award is Zeroflowne.

Originally posted by Kung Fu Monkey Ball

The Orthodox fasting routine is nuts, but very, very impressive and admirable

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasting...ek-Catholicism

Originally posted by Magyar15

Holy crap. Its times like these that make me glad I'm a Baptist

Originally posted by Alucard

This is one of the things I actually look forward to about being an Orthodox. It's not just a convenient faith.

Originally posted by Zeroflowne

Yes, because God likes it when you suffer.

This is from the comments on the Register, on an article where a French historian made a statement that King Arthur was a myth, and invented as English propaganda (she is of course ignoring the fact that Arthur was meant to be a Briton and regarded the Angles as invaders).
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/30/king_arthur/

Hiding in the lengthy rants against the French is this little gem:

Another famous Myth
By Tim
Posted Monday 30th June 2008 12:53 GMT

What it rerally comes down to is belief. Do you believe King Arthur existed? I can think of another myth that is even older that Billions believe in of which there is no real proof, only a single book.

quiner from the Richard Dawkins forums.

I'm glad Dawkins didn't accept [the debate challenge from William Lane Craig], and I hope he doesn't. He is above debating the charlatans from the Discovery Institute such as Mr. Craig.

http://richarddawkins.net/forum/view...p?f=14&t=49206

William Lane Craig is a Discovery Institute fellow now? What?

Originally posted by Alucard

quiner from the Richard Dawkins forums.



http://richarddawkins.net/forum/view...p?f=14&t=49206

William Lane Craig is a Discovery Institute fellow now? What?

Since when did facts about WLC ever bother Dawkin's groupies.

Email:

Jordan Maxwell is a more than reliable source, who has exposed the New Testament as nothing but astrological worship and mushroom/shaman worship (something you of course never bothered to address.)

Heck, even the TRINITY is pagan:

http://www.jesusisbuddha.com/
http://www.jesus-messiah.com/apologe...c/trinity.html

For some enlightenment, I propose you read unitarian ministers Bill Darlison's "The Gospel and The Zodiac", anything by Malik H. Jabbar, and "Jesus Christ, sun of god, by David Fideler. For more, there is Mead's "did jesus live 100 BC", and Casciol's "fables of christ," where he demonstrates that the 'original' Jesus was John the Nazarene.

Here is also an exercpt from 'The Christ Conspiracy':
http://truthbeknown.com/christ.htm

Yor honestly in denial if you can't realize that Christianity is mostly sun-woship.

And ONE last thing:

is(is)ra(sun-god)el-(ohim).

Israel. :)

Sun, stars, planets.

DJ linked to this travesty:

http://teapotatheism.blogspot.com/20...tal-so-he.html

...which inflates the theist "body count" by ignoring any impact theism may have had on a person's beliefs and defining "theist" as "anyone who passes by an idol in Wal-Mart".

And it uses Wikipedia as a source all through.

Oh. . . my. . . . . .crap. I just found this on abovetopsecret.com:

To understand on how I know this, you have to read my OOBE thread. It's a long story. But basically, I went to the end of the universe and was told many things by the Aliens, Angels and God.

When you die, your soul (creation energy) has to enter a faster than lightspeed mode and travel to the end of the universe, where you will enter a portal and on the other side there is heaven. It's pretty basic stuff.

In order to gain that strengh for the jump, you have to feed your soul with creation energy while on earth. Think like keeping it charged while you are here. The body feeds the soul and it recycles it's own energy. and there are ways to build up your energy so you are strong enough when the time comes for your jump to the end of the universe.

1. Eat lots of vegetables. keep your body healthy and in shape as this in turn becomes a source for more creation energy for your body.
2. Exercise. The soul likes to workout. it keeps it fresh and moving. in turn, making it stronger. So not only is exercise good for the body but also for the soul.
3. Do good things. You gain strenght that way. The soul reads on this and feeds on positive things you do during your lifetime.
4. Read, go to school and get educated. Work your brain.

When the time comes, and your creation energy leaves your body..you will enter the jump mode and travel to heaven and you are easily there. the entire trip will take about 12 hours.

However, if your soul is too weak when it exits the body many disastrous things can happen.

1. Your soul can be sucked by the earths magnetic field and gravity and taken down to the center. Here you will be stuck, spinning in the fire till eternity. This is what you call hell. You wont be able to regenerate and your creation energy will eventually dissapear and become part of the core.

2. While you are travelling on your way there, your soul can crash and get stuck. being on another planet, gaseous planet or other object in the universe. Sucked into a black hole, or you could end up lost in dark matter.

That's basically it. So in order to make it to heaven safely you need to do those basic things. very simple isn't?

So have a good trip and you can thank me later.

Jedimiller.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread316231/pg1

I'm with you there.

Originally posted by jpholding

DJ linked to this travesty:

http://teapotatheism.blogspot.com/20...tal-so-he.html

...which inflates the theist "body count" by ignoring any impact theism may have had on a person's beliefs and defining "theist" as "anyone who passes by an idol in Wal-Mart".

And it uses Wikipedia as a source all through.

I think I figured out how he works...

If the person in charge even remotely claimed to be a theist, he took the biggest numbers and ignored rather or not it had anything to do with religion.

Originally posted by lilpixieofterror

I think I figured out how he works...

If the person in charge even remotely claimed to be a theist, he took the biggest numbers and ignored rather or not it had anything to do with religion.

Just now he'll be trying to claim that Mugabe is representative of Christianity

Originally posted by Raphael

Just now he'll be trying to claim that Mugabe is representative of Christianity

Of course, just ignore the parts about help those in need or many will claim they are Christians and Jesus will tell say they never knew him... if a person says they are a Christian, they must be! No matter if they follow it or not.

spirit5er's first effort at Gold for the month:

Kenny is representative of most Christians I've met in his unflattering approach to Hume:

3.) Read ECREE in the second way, supplemented by the Humean thesis that miracle claims, by their very nature, are extremely antecedently epistemically improbable. Okay, then ECREE just becomes an expression of Humean skepticism about miracles in slogan form. Well, we can debate the merits of Humean arguments against rational belief in miracles another time perhaps (personally, I think Humean arguments against rational belief in miracles all suck). But the important point here is that on this reading, ECREE is nothing more than an expression of Humean skepticism about miracles.

Hey Kenny, how do you figure a jury should go about determining the guilt or innocence of a harassment suspect, if the case is 100% "he said/she said" and circumstantial, with no direct evidence either way? Would it involve application of Hume's principle of past experience? Should they use their past experience of what people are like when they lie or tell the truth, to guide their fact-finding process? Or would this suck?

Kenny wouldn't know Hume's argument sucked, unless he utiltized Hume's principle of personal experience to draw this conclusion. How often must Kenny depend upon this principle to draw his anti-Hume conclusion? Let's see:

1 - Kenny must rely on his past experience of learning the alphabet.
2 - Kenny must rely on his past experience of learning to read.
3 - Kenny must rely on his past experience of getting good sleep so he can be awake enough to evaluate arguments correctly.
4 - Kenny must rely on his past experience of gravity so he doesn't walk off any bridge or roof and die, thus preventing him from critiquing Hume's dependence on past experience.
5 - Kenny must rely on his past experiences of other books, so that he knew what to do when he came across Hume's " An Enquiry concerning Human Understanding".
6 - Kenny must rely on his past experience of how computers work, so that he knew what to do to get his attack on Hume posted through the internet.
7 - Kenny must rely on his past experience of staying alive by eating and drinking, because life experience has told him that's what needs to be done if he wants to stay alive and critique others.

In short, Kenny slices his own throat, because the Humaen principle he thinks sucks, is one that he himself uses 24 hours a day, believing it will yield to him a rational correct understanding of whatever claim or situation he is wondering about.

Courts of law depend exclusively on Hume's principle: their past experience of life, in determining whether a defendant is guilty or innocent. The prosecutor looks for patterns in the defendent's life that mimic previous patterns the prosecutor has detected in his previous experiences with guilty suspects, which tell him she's probably guilty. The judge has his own experience in life of what people typically act like when they are lying or when they are telling the truth. The jury must then use their own collective experiences in life to judge the evidence. The rules of evidence text is itself based on centuries of courtroom experiences.

If I told you a 2-week old kitten successfully fought off 9 adult pit bulls trying to attack her, all by herself, what would be your first reaction?

Would you act like a disciple of Hume, rely on your past experience of kittens, and scoff at this claim until better evidence comes to light?

Or would you act like an apologist in a debate, whose defenses are up, and believe the claim, admitting that you believe things even when they don't match up to your personal experience of how the world works and doesn't work?

So Hume's principle of personal experience in life, is completely reasonable. Take away a person's memory of personal experiences in life, and you then remove their ability to evaluate any claim. Hume got it exactly right. How closely the claim aligns with your personal experience of life is a very wise way to evaluate any claim's level of probable truth, or lack thereof, short of direct evidence of course.

I don't believe in your story of a levitating invisible man because such a thing comports with absolutely nothing in my experience of how humans and gravity work and don't work regardless of number of dead witnesses to it....and you don't believe in my super-kitten, because it harmonizes with absolutely nothing in your own experience of how kittens and pit bulls work and don't work, regardless of the number of dead witnesses.

So unless Kenny can come up with something other than one's own experience of how the world works, as a way of testing claims that have no direct evidence, what sucks is Kenny's completely irrational critique, not Hume's principle of personal experience, which everybody uses every second of their life, constantly comparing new bits of info with previously accepted truths, and rejecting the new bits if they don't square up with that previous experience.

In other words, you are an atheist and a worshipper of David Hume, you just don't know it yet.

Another from Spirit5er, although it's only a silver due to his even dumber post that OBP already posted:

Originally posted by spirit5er

Or, some people pretend to hold their denomination's doctrines, simply to avoid tension and conflict, realizing that church still fulfills a social need for families.

Hell, I got to church every sunday and I'm an atheist! It's a southern baptist church. I learn a lot about psychology, group-think, coercion, peer-pressure, childhood conditioning, etc.