Coming at you from the not-so-sunny mountains of Manchester, Tennessee.

On my way here I saw the following advertisement:
VISIT RACCOON MOUNTAIN & CAVERNS, ESTABLISHED 500,000 BC
I kept wondering where the '500,000 BC' label was printed.
I also wondered if, besides that date, the label also showed
Made in Taiwan or China or Mexico or Korea or Japan.
Those kinds of questions stay with me for a long time.

Anyway, that's another subject.


This thread is about the Darwin Was Wrong Conference (DWWC)
to be held at Calvary Chapel in Costa Mesa, California on Nov 13-14.

Ten presentations will be given at the DWWC by scientists such as
J. Sanford, J. Baumgardner, S. Austin,, J. Bergman and others.
Each presentation begins: "Darwin Was Wrong About .............."

I have twelve business-related stops before the Conference but, God
willing, I will be there. I helped Dr. Charles Ware put together his talk :
Darwin Was Wrong About Race.

In this "Year of Darwin", there can be no better goal than to expose to
the world the mountain of errors that Darwin believed, promoted and
helped to create. This will be a great conference to attain that goal.

Stay tuned ...

Jorge

They'll need a lot of speakers!

Originally posted by Jorge

Coming at you from the not-so-sunny mountains of Manchester, Tennessee.

On my way here I saw the following advertisement:
VISIT RACCOON MOUNTAIN & CAVERNS, ESTABLISHED 500,000 BC
I kept wondering where the '500,000 BC' label was printed.
I also wondered if, besides that date, the label also showed
Made in Taiwan or China or Mexico or Korea or Japan.
Those kinds of questions stay with me for a long time.

Anyway, that's another subject.


This thread is about the Darwin Was Wrong Conference (DWWC)
to be held at Calvary Chapel in Costa Mesa, California on Nov 13-14.

Ten presentations will be given at the DWWC by scientists such as
J. Sanford, J. Baumgardner, S. Austin,, J. Bergman and others.
Each presentation begins: "Darwin Was Wrong About .............."

I have twelve business-related stops before the Conference but, God
willing, I will be there. I helped Dr. Charles Ware put together his talk :
Darwin Was Wrong About Race.

In this "Year of Darwin", there can be no better goal than to expose to
the world the mountain of errors that Darwin believed, promoted and
helped to create. This will be a great conference to attain that goal.

Stay tuned ...

Jorge

We're all holding our breaths, jorge. I'm sure you will discuss some of the arguments that come up in that convention with us, right?


Haha, I kill me sometimes.

Originally posted by Jorge

Coming at you from the not-so-sunny mountains of Manchester, Tennessee.

On my way here I saw the following advertisement:
VISIT RACCOON MOUNTAIN & CAVERNS, ESTABLISHED 500,000 BC
I kept wondering where the '500,000 BC' label was printed.
I also wondered if, besides that date, the label also showed
Made in Taiwan or China or Mexico or Korea or Japan.
Those kinds of questions stay with me for a long time.

Anyway, that's another subject.


This thread is about the Darwin Was Wrong Conference (DWWC)
to be held at Calvary Chapel in Costa Mesa, California on Nov 13-14.

Ten presentations will be given at the DWWC by scientists such as
J. Sanford, J. Baumgardner, S. Austin,, J. Bergman and others.
Each presentation begins: "Darwin Was Wrong About .............."

I have twelve business-related stops before the Conference but, God
willing, I will be there. I helped Dr. Charles Ware put together his talk :
Darwin Was Wrong About Race.

In this "Year of Darwin", there can be no better goal than to expose to
the world the mountain of errors that Darwin believed, promoted and
helped to create. This will be a great conference to attain that goal.

Stay tuned ...

Jorge

Well Darwin was wrong on many things, and he was right on many things. I don't know of any scientist who was right on all things.

Anyway, can we trust you guys to handle the truth with care?


Regards, Roland

Originally posted by Jorge

I helped Dr. Charles Ware put together his talk :
Darwin Was Wrong About Race.

And this is relevant because? Henry Morris was wrong about race as well, but that has nothing to do with the errors of the Young Earth Creationism he expounded.

rossum

Originally posted by Jorge

Coming at you from the not-so-sunny mountains of Manchester, Tennessee.

On my way here I saw the following advertisement:
VISIT RACCOON MOUNTAIN & CAVERNS, ESTABLISHED 500,000 BC
I kept wondering where the '500,000 BC' label was printed.
I also wondered if, besides that date, the label also showed
Made in Taiwan or China or Mexico or Korea or Japan.
Those kinds of questions stay with me for a long time.

Anyway, that's another subject.


This thread is about the Darwin Was Wrong Conference (DWWC)
to be held at Calvary Chapel in Costa Mesa, California on Nov 13-14.

Ten presentations will be given at the DWWC by scientists such as
J. Sanford, J. Baumgardner, S. Austin,, J. Bergman and others.
Each presentation begins: "Darwin Was Wrong About .............."

I have twelve business-related stops before the Conference but, God
willing, I will be there. I helped Dr. Charles Ware put together his talk :
Darwin Was Wrong About Race.

In this "Year of Darwin", there can be no better goal than to expose to
the world the mountain of errors that Darwin believed, promoted and
helped to create. This will be a great conference to attain that goal.

Stay tuned ...

Jorge

Well , I'll ask you the same questions that CTD has been cowardly avoiding:

Why do YECs spend so much time with the personal attacks on Darwin (i.e. the OP "Darwin Was Wrong") in an effort to somehow discredit the modern theory that bears his name?

Why would anything that Darwin believed 150 years ago cause us to reject the modern ToE?

Are you going to do the clown evasion tap-dance for us too?

- T

BTW Jorge, if these astute YEC "scientists" with their "scientific" conference are going to release this earth-shattering "scientific" news of how Darwin was wrong so ToE is falsified, why are they doing it at an out of the way Christian church? Shouldn't they be calling a national press conference? Or presenting to a world scientific body like the ERC?

Unless the goal is just for the con men to sell more of their YEC merchandise to the gullible sheep. Then the church venue makes perfect sense.

- T

Originally posted by Jorge

Coming at you from the not-so-sunny mountains of Manchester, Tennessee.

On my way here I saw the following advertisement:
VISIT RACCOON MOUNTAIN & CAVERNS, ESTABLISHED 500,000 BC
I kept wondering where the '500,000 BC' label was printed.
I also wondered if, besides that date, the label also showed
Made in Taiwan or China or Mexico or Korea or Japan.
Those kinds of questions stay with me for a long time.

Anyway, that's another subject.


This thread is about the Darwin Was Wrong Conference (DWWC)
to be held at Calvary Chapel in Costa Mesa, California on Nov 13-14.

Ten presentations will be given at the DWWC by scientists such as
J. Sanford, J. Baumgardner, S. Austin,, J. Bergman and others.
Each presentation begins: "Darwin Was Wrong About .............."

I have twelve business-related stops before the Conference but, God
willing, I will be there. I helped Dr. Charles Ware put together his talk :
Darwin Was Wrong About Race.

In this "Year of Darwin", there can be no better goal than to expose to
the world the mountain of errors that Darwin believed, promoted and
helped to create. This will be a great conference to attain that goal.

Stay tuned ...

Jorge

For a brief moment assuming the accusation has truth to it:

So was Wagner (wrong about race - he was anti-semitic), does that mean he composed crap music?




Jim

I believe Jorge formulates it thus:

—Biblical Creationists worship God.

—Evolutionists worship Darwin.

—God is perfect.

—Darwin was racist.

—Therefore, Darwin-worship is immoral; God-worship is moral.

2-to-1 there will be a slide of some statue of Darwin with the words "SACRED COW" superimposed.

—Sam

Originally posted by Ansgar Seraph

2-to-1 there will be a slide of some statue of Darwin with the words "SACRED COW" superimposed.

Surest "lock" ever in the history of online wagering.

- T

Yeah; I just looked at the brochure again:

"While much of the world is now paying homage to this man, it is timely to review how profoundly wrong Darwin was on virtually every major topic he addressed."

Don't want to pay homage to a racist, do ya?

ETA: In seriousness, Jorge, why don't you clue us all in on some of the actual content of the presentation? In which ways was Darwin wrong about race and why should that matter?

Dr. Ware is the co-author of the book, "Darwin's Plantation: Evolution's Racist Roots".

Google Books Link

The book looks more like the classic Ken Ham hit job than anything; Ware seems just along for the ride.

—Sam

Originally posted by Jorge

Coming at you from the not-so-sunny mountains of Manchester, Tennessee.

On my way here I saw the following advertisement:
VISIT RACCOON MOUNTAIN & CAVERNS, ESTABLISHED 500,000 BC
I kept wondering where the '500,000 BC' label was printed.
I also wondered if, besides that date, the label also showed
Made in Taiwan or China or Mexico or Korea or Japan.
Those kinds of questions stay with me for a long time.

Anyway, that's another subject.

Would isotopic tagging count as labels Jorge?

Originally posted by Jorge

This thread is about the Darwin Was Wrong Conference (DWWC)
to be held at Calvary Chapel in Costa Mesa, California on Nov 13-14.

Ten presentations will be given at the DWWC by scientists such as
J. Sanford, J. Baumgardner, S. Austin,, J. Bergman and others.
Each presentation begins: "Darwin Was Wrong About .............."

I have twelve business-related stops before the Conference but, God
willing, I will be there. I helped Dr. Charles Ware put together his talk :
Darwin Was Wrong About Race.

In this "Year of Darwin", there can be no better goal than to expose to
the world the mountain of errors that Darwin believed, promoted and
helped to create. This will be a great conference to attain that goal.

Stay tuned ...

Jorge

Can I play?

Darwin Was Wrong About ... genetics. Darwin had no explanation for how traits could be passed on. He actually supported a Lamarckian answer. Mendel’s research and discovery of the “laws of inheritance” wasn’t noticed until around 1900 (nearly two decades after Darwin’s death). Ironically, it was at first even seen as a rival to natural selection as an explanation of biological diversity.

Darwin Was Wrong About ... the wild origins of the chicken. He thought the domesticated chicken descended from the red jungle fowl. Recent research shows it is more complex than he realized: http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-ssd022908.php

Darwin Was Wrong About ... whales having descended from bears in the first edition of his “On the Origin of the Species”:

"In North America the black bear was seen . . . swimming for hours with widely open mouth, thus catching, like a whale, insects in the water. Even in so extreme a case as this, if the supply of insects were constant, and if better adapted competitors did not already exist in the country, I can see no difficulty in a race of bears being rendered, by natural selection, more and more aquatic in their structure and habits, with larger and larger mouths, till a creature was produced as monstrous as a whale."

While a pretty good guess considering the very limited information he had a century and a half ago, it is wrong. Today, both molecular phylogenetic and morphological evidence point to whales being more closely related to the even-toed ungulates known as artiodactyls, specifically the hippopotamus.

Originally posted by Tiggy

Well , I'll ask you the same questions that CTD has been cowardly avoiding:

Why do YECs spend so much time with the personal attacks on Darwin (i.e. the OP "Darwin Was Wrong") in an effort to somehow discredit the modern theory that bears his name?

Why would anything that Darwin believed 150 years ago cause us to reject the modern ToE?

Are you going to do the clown evasion tap-dance for us too?

- T

Exactly. I'll repost the same thing I asked CTD that he only responded with, "Appeal to intellect? Now this is a pleasant surprise" but failed to actually address:

Originally posted by rogue06

But then really what is the point of all this? How does any of it help to confirm or negate Evolution?The ToE isn't dependent upon Darwin but instead upon the evidence. Any attempt to discredit him personally makes no difference. Think of it this way; does the validity of geometry fall if Euclid beat his wife or slept with chickens? It's really all part of a rather pathetic "shoot the messenger" tactic.

Perhaps Jorge will take a shot at it.

Originally posted by rossum

And this is relevant because? Henry Morris was wrong about race as well, but that has nothing to do with the errors of the Young Earth Creationism he expounded.

rossum

Jorge is wrong on all things, and this has every thing to do with the errors Jorge always makes.

Jorge, are you going to end up running from this like you do every time you post a claim about Darwin providing the scientific justification for Hitler and the Holocaust and I refute it by showing a much more intimate link between Germ Theory, Pasteur and Nazi ideology?

Just wondering because I can hardly wait for you to start demonstrating that he was racist and that this somehow refutes the ToE.