Originally posted by Roy

Because you are a gulllible idiot who believes the lies of propagandists.

There is nothing particularly surprising about an aurochs skull with a bullet hole in it - if indeed it actually exists and isn't just something your source made up - because the aurochs didn'y go extinct thousands and thousands of years ago, but only a few hundred years ago, after the invention of the musket.

Roy

"The same judgment you judge others with, you are guilty of yourself."

You probably still believe you uncle is a monkey, don't ya?

And, I could be wrong, but don't look like a musket ball hole but, tell ya what, we'll give the Monkies Uncle this one and keep the score of other artifacts that they have not been able to explain.

Originally posted by Theoferrum

Well, Rouge, explain to us where he got the Bell with the noted discreptancies in metallurgy from anything made today, as the article mentions?

Right off the top of my head... That the bell is a hundred years old or older. That it was made in a Third World Country where they don't always use the most modern methods or alloys. And an "unusual" mixture is meaningless by itself.

Originally posted by Theoferrum

"The same judgment you judge others with, you are guilty of yourself."

You probably still believe you uncle is a monkey, don't ya?

And, I could be wrong, but don't look like a musket ball hole but, tell ya what, we'll give the Monkies Uncle this one and keep the score of other artifacts that they have not been able to explain.

And you now are an expert on musket ball wounds?

Here is the skull of an Incan killed by a Spanish conquistador musket ball discovered in 2004 when an Inca cemetery in the Lima, Peru suburb of Puruchuco was excavated:

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While I don't claim to be an expert and don't know the variables (I'm sort of assuming that an auroch's skull is thicker), that looks consistent with the wound in the auroch suggesting that they could have been made by the same weapon type.

Oh, fwiw, according to Wikipedia the auroch went extinct in 1627

Originally posted by Theoferrum

This guy found an Antediluvial Electric Plug in a chunk of Granite - I wonder if the rest of the plug is still encased in the rock?

My Rock's material is solid natural quartz and feldspar granite (very little observed mica; I am not a Geologist) - not an accretion, concretion or pumice - does not contain any resins, cements, glues, limestone, mortar, or other non-granite binding agents - is very hard, is estimated to be at least 100,000 years old, and has embedded in it an electrical-like component (I assume to be a connector of some sort).

http://www.s8int.com/page15.html

I should have titled this post Antediluvia

Wow. I haven' t ever seen such an obvious fake. Even the fishing reel embedded in rock was better.

Very entertaining. Thanks.

From what I've read in this and the Adam's body thread we're clearly dealing with someone whose grasp on reality is tenuous at best. I guess all I really have to add is this photo.
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/at...1&d=1249882210

Originally posted by rogue06

And you now are an expert on musket ball wounds?

Here is the skull of an Incan killed by a Spanish conquistador musket ball discovered in 2004 when an Inca cemetery in the Lima, Peru suburb of Puruchuco was excavated:

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While I don't claim to be an expert and don't know the variables (I'm sort of assuming that an auroch's skull is thicker), that looks consistent with the wound in the auroch suggesting that they could have been made by the same weapon type.

Oh, fwiw, according to Wikipedia the auroch went extinct in 1627

Actually, when I was a kid my old man gave us kids two musket balls - one like a kids boulder and the other one like a bullet - which are about the size of a 16 Guage Slug and would leave a hole about the size of a nickle or even a quarter. The hole in the Bull's Head looks to be about the size of a 22 or maybe a 30-30.

However, as stated, we'll let you have this one and we'll keep the others that you can't explain.

Originally posted by rogue06

Couldn't help but notice that you skipped over the fact that the person who wrote the article you are citing has admitted that he doesn't know what the object is though continues to call it wood in the popular press.

As for Cherkinsky, that wasn't his job and only said: "“It wasn't wood at all and more looked like the iron concretion with the structures lightly similar to wood.” Catch that Theo? "It wasn't wood... with structures lightly similar to wood." He's even saying that even the resemblance to wood wasn't very good.

And I also couldn't help but notice that you completely avoided the part that shows that the entire idea of testing it using C14 testing was ludicrous from the start and predestined to get crap results:

As Snelling acknowledges he had the wood “sent for radiocarbon (¹⁴C) analysis.” Radiocarbon dating has a maximum range of something like 50,000 years, meaning it can’t reliably date anything older than that. Reputable scientists all readily understand this and don’t bother having older artifacts radiocarbon dated knowing full well the results will be meaningless since the test was never designed to do that.

Most people can appreciate the fact if you use tools not designed to do a job that you are more often than not likely to get less than satisfactory results. It’s sort of like blaming a microwave for not being able to slow cook something like a crock pot. It never was designed to and any attempts to get it to work that way are not very likely to succeed. But like the poor craftsman, YECs choose to blame the tools for the mistakes.

And, I already replied to this but will add that you and the geologist just shot yourselves in the foot.

Which is easier to believe - that a piece of wood got embeded in a rock or a piece of man made iron?

Either way, it pretty much destroys the man made dating methods that are off by billions of years.

Originally posted by rogue06

Right off the top of my head... That the bell is a hundred years old or older. That it was made in a Third World Country where they don't always use the most modern methods or alloys. And an "unusual" mixture is meaningless by itself.

Not when all the man made metals found in anomalous circumstances all display the same pattern of abnormal mixture one trait of which that they all seem to have in common is that they don't rust.

But, if you want to ignore the facts thats your choice.

Originally posted by JonF

Wow. I haven' t ever seen such an obvious fake. Even the fishing reel embedded in rock was better.

Very entertaining. Thanks.

Really?

How did that fake bet embedded in granite, Einstein?

Originally posted by USIncognito

From what I've read in this and the Adam's body thread we're clearly dealing with someone whose grasp on reality is tenuous at best. I guess all I really have to add is this photo.
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/at...1&d=1249882210

From what I have seen - "The same judgment you judge others with you are guilty of yourself" - you don't have a grasp on reality.

That would explain why you believe you uncle is a monkey and you can't add anything intelligent to the conversation.

Speaking of propaganda, the evolutionists want you to believe that all the geometric patterns on this rock are naturally occuring. It is much more obviously an Antediluvial artifact.

Jennings Randolph Lake Tourist Piece on Waffle Rock

"This is a boulder on display at Jennings Randolph Lake in Mineral County, West Virginia. There have been numerous theories and speculations as to its origin, ranging from a pictograph made by prehistoric man, an indian carving, the impression of the skin pattern of a giant lizard, or evidence of a visit to earth by an early travelers from outer space.

After examination of the phenomenon, Corps of Engineers geologists and those of other agencies have concluded that it is a natural geological formation. Although such formations are not common, similar patterned boulders were found on the east side of Tea Creek Mountain in Pocahontas County, West Virginia. Dr. Jack B. Epstein of the Geological Survey, U.S. Department of the interior, explained that the waffle rock is part of the Conemaugh geologic series that was deposited about 300 million years ago during the Pennsylvanian period.

http://www.s8int.com/page24.html

And, here is some more Metalmania for Baton Rouge. A chunk of metal found buried with a couple of Mastodons whose metal is, "very complex" one chemical of which is aluminum which does not occur naturally in nature - thus ruling out the reply that it was manufactured in the backwoods of some third world country.

THE AIUD ARTIFACT

In 1974, in Romania, two kilometers east of Aiud, a group of workers, on the banks of the river Mures, discovered three buried objects in the sand, in a trench about 10 meters(32 feet) in depth . Two of the objects, proved themselves to be Mastodon bones, some millions of years old from, between the Miocene and the Pleistocene periods. Florin Gheorghita, for one, had the opportunity to examine the report, and the analysis performed under the direction of Dr.Niederkorn of the institute for the study of metals and of non-metallic minerals (ICPMMN), located in Magurele, Romania, emphasized that it is composed of a alloy of extremely complex metal. Gheorghita affirms that the alloy is composed of 12 different elements, of which he has succeeded to establish also the volumetric percentage of the aluminum (89%). He identified the presence of Copper (6,2%), silicon (2,84%),zinc (1,81%), lead (0,41%), pond (0,33%), zirconium(0,2%), cadmium (0,11%), nickel (0,0024%), cobalt (0,0023%), bismuth (0,0003%), silver (0,0002%), and gallium (in trace amounts).

http://www.s8int.com/page29.html

I can't wait to hear the explantation for this one. Trianagular Holes in solid granite.

Triangular Holes in Granite

Recently, someone who wishes to remain anonymous, inspired after reading our Ancient Man, wrote us about a curious discovery of his. He had found some triangular holes in a granite boulder near Raleigh, NC. We have mentioned similar triangular holes before (SF#69/ 20), noting that hundreds of such holes had been recorded in boulders from Minnesota and the Dakotas to the eastern seaboard. We can now add to this dossier a photograph supplemented by this individual's testimony. The holes are made with high precision to the dimensions shown in the figure. They are 6 inches deep, plus or minus an inch. Holes with a rounded triangular shape represent a sophisticated drilling technology. Steel tools are high craftsmanship are indicated. Even though the holes have been known for over a century, only amateurs have shown much interest. A few such enthusiasts have tracked down hundreds in Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, Illinois, and the eastern seaboard.


http://www.s8int.com/page36.html

And, one might ask, how did ancient man know what a Stegosaurus looked like?

Most Enigmatic Artifact?

And now we come to one of the most important pieces of Tolone’s collection. One that will receive the closest scrutiny and interrogation by experts--and for which the collector has been quite emphatic of its authenticity,- a terracotta statue of of approximately 18 cm of length representing one strange dinosaur/sauropod with plates on its back. No type of salamander or lizard like this species is currently known, that has similar plates, but-- it is possible to take up any handbook on paleontology and it becomes clear immediately that the animal represented in the sculpture belongs to a species of stegosaur,-- a species of dinosaur with plates on its back;-- that scientists assert became extinct approximately 65 million years ago.

http://www.s8int.com/page39.html

Originally posted by FreezBee

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