== I can honestly say that I did not hear the gospel that saves (
1 Corinthians 15:3-4) taught clearly in the LDS church.
What? "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins"
That Christ died for our sins is the most important doctrine taught in the LDS Church.
"For these are they whose sins he has borne; these are they for whom he has died, to redeem them from their transgressions" (Mosiah 15:12)
"And since man had fallen he could not merit anything of himself; but the sufferings and death of Christ atone for their sins, through faith and repentance, and so forth; and that he breaketh the bands of death, that the graveshall have no victory, and that the sting of death should be swallowed up in the hopes of glory;" (Alma 22:14;33:22)
"LISTEN to the voice of Jesus Christ, your Redeemer, the Great I AM, whose arm of mercy hath atoned for your sins;"(D&C 29:1)
For this reason, such testimony says more of the person giving it, than it does of the LDS faith. This is like an ex-Christian claiming that he or she was never taught that Christ was really resurrected from the dead. Comments like these can only sound silly to christians. Likewise, the above "testimony" can only seem humorous to Latter-day Saints who actually pay attention to what is taught.
== I was taught that after I did all that I could do(works) then God's grace was sufficient to do the rest.
Well if we go by the definition offered by Evangelicals, grace would be enough for everyone and everyone goes to heaven. Its absolutely free to everyone right? Grace means unmerited favor - no strings attached right? But of course not everyone goes to heaven, so only those who follow him through faith will be receiving his saving grace. In other words, the Bible is on our side yet again.
== Do I believe there are some saved LDS members? Certainly, but it's despite the teachings of the church not because of them.
So in spite of being taught what you say, they go against these teachings yet remain LDS? Makes sense to me.
== Also the LDS definition of salvation is misleading at best.
Not at all. It remains consistent with the Bible. You guys equivocate too much with your definition and that of the Bible.
== They believe because Jesus Christ died on the cross all men will be resurrected.
Yes, just as the Bible teaches. You highlighted
1 Cor 15, but ignored vs 22:
"For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive."
ALL will be made alive how? Obviously not everyone will be spiritually saved, therefore it must be speaking of the resurrection. And lo and behold, this is exactly what the context says. Verse 21:
"For since by man came death, by man came also the
resurrection of the dead."
But in good ex-Mormon fashion, you're not telling the whole story. You're only telling a half-truth to make discrepancy appear paramount, while ignoring teh fact that this is good biblical doctrine. We also teach that those who are saved, as you define it, are done so through the blood of Christ. The fact that we obey him through faith is just a necessary fact. I don't even know any Evangelicals who believe anyone saved will be saved without obeying Christ.
Their main issue is about merit and earning. This is where they begin to judge teh motives of LDS instead of accepting the logic. Christ says quite explicitly that only those who are saved will be those who obey him. Does this mean we work our way to heaven? LDS don't see it that way. You can if you feel so compelled, but one thing is for sure: the Bible is on our side.
== I know it's very difficult to explain but perhaps you can give a better description of the LDS definition of salvation Darryl.
Very difficult? You're a former LDS and you think this is difficult? The difficulty I see is when someone tells me X is required before Y can happen, yet at the same time Y is free and X really isn't necessary at all.
are my lds relatives headed to hell?
I don't believe you were on Paltalk the other night when I shared my testimony. I wish you had been. While I can only answer this question regarding myself and not your LDS family members, I can honestly say that I did not hear the gospel that saves (1 Corinthians 15:3-4) taught clearly in the LDS church. I was taught that after I did all that I could do(works) then God's grace was sufficient to do the rest. Do I believe there are some saved LDS members? Certainly, but it's despite the teachings of the church not because of them. Also the LDS definition of salvation is misleading at best. They believe because Jesus Christ died on the cross all men will be resurrected. This resurrection affords them the ability to be judged according to their works for salvation. I know it's very difficult to explain but perhaps you can give a better description of the LDS definition of salvation Darryl. Great to see you here btw. I did post on your welcome thread. 
hi linda, i hope your right about some members of the lds church being saved. the mormons believe in 2 different salvations. one for everybody and one for good mormons. lol. if everyone was saved, jesus wouldnt have to go to the cross, so that eliminates their first salvation, and we all know that theres only one heaven, so that eliminates there second salvation. guess that leaves most of them with no salvation. bummer.
