Vomit & Faeces in the House of the Lord ?

[headheart]

Now if we play sacred songs of worship and praise at the local tavern, and that is called casting pearl, or giving that which is holy to dogs, what then would be the situation if we took that which pigs and dogs enjoyed... 'faeces, and vomit' and served it up in the House of the Lord ?

:yummy: --- :no::yes::thumb::thumbd:

[RBerman]

The people of the church are the house of the Lord.

[headheart]

The people of the church are the house of the Lord.

Let me try that again...... .:uhoh:


Vomit & Faeces in the House of the Lord ?

'Now if we play sacred songs of worship and praise at the local tavern, and that is called casting pearl, or giving that which is holy to dogs, what [would we call it] if we took that which pigs and dogs enjoyed... 'faeces, and vomit' and served it up in the House of the Lord ( a gathering together of Christians in private (ie. in a physical building, or a private location, for the purpose of prayer, worship, Bible Study etc. ) ?'


:uneasy: :frown::bawl::huh::doh:
How do you do it ?

Sincerely,
HH.














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[Hamster]

Not sure what you're trying to say

is someone singing bar songs at church?

[headheart]

.......is someone singing bar songs at church?

:thumb:

Now all I need to do is to find a metaphor that is the opposite of 'casting pearl before swine, or giving that which is holy to the dogs'. The best I have come up with so far is 'giving gold to a dead man'


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[RBerman]

"Bar songs" historically referred not to music sung in taverns, but to music which had a set meter (like 4/4 for instance) rather than a free meter. Gregorian chant had free meter, without bars delimiting separate measures on the sheet music. The scandal of Martin Luther was not that he brought tavern music into the church, but that his music was not in the free Gregorian style, but instead used the then-novel concept of having the regular rhythm characteristic of bar music.

[headheart]

"Bar songs" historically referred not to music sung in taverns, but to music which had a set meter (like 4/4 for instance) rather than a free meter. Gregorian chant had free meter, without bars delimiting separate measures on the sheet music. The scandal of Martin Luther was not that he brought tavern music into the church, but that his music was not in the free Gregorian style, but instead used the then-novel concept of having the regular rhythm characteristic of bar music.

Let me try again.....:eh:

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Vomit & Faeces in the House of the Lord ?

[The use of the phrases: 'sacred songs of worship and praise' and 'that which pigs and dogs enjoyed' refer to the words, and their meanings , not the music..]

'Now if we play ['sacred songs of worship and praise'] at the local tavern, and that is called casting pearl, or giving that which is holy to dogs, what [would we call it] if we took ['that which pigs and dogs enjoyed']... 'faeces, and vomit' and served it up in the House of the Lord ( a gathering together of Christians in private (ie. in a physical building, or a private location, for the purpose of prayer, worship, Bible Study etc. ) ?'

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Now all I need to do is to find a metaphor that is the opposite of 'casting pearl before swine, or giving that which is holy to the dogs'. The best I have come up with so far is 'giving gold to a dead man'

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[RBerman]

What do you have in mind, HH? Are there churches singing pop songs in worship?

[Sparko]

so you are saying my church shouldn't be singing "100 bottles of beer on the wall" during service?

dang.

[NormATive]

Now if we play sacred songs of worship and praise at the local tavern, and that is called casting pearl, or giving that which is holy to dogs, what then would be the situation if we took that which pigs and dogs enjoyed... 'faeces, and vomit' and served it up in the House of the Lord ?

:yummy: --- :no::yes::thumb::thumbd:

CCM?

:shrug:

NORM

[headheart]

CCM?

:shrug:

NORM


No.

Consider the following development of my opening post, as I responded to the questions raised by RBerman.

OP 1
Vomit & Faeces in the House of the Lord ?
Now if we play sacred songs of worship and praise at the local tavern, and that is called casting pearl, or giving that which is holy to dogs, what then would be the situation if we took that which pigs and dogs enjoyed... 'faeces, and vomit' and served it up in the House of the Lord ?

OP 2
Vomit & Faeces in the House of the Lord ?

'Now if we play sacred songs of worship and praise at the local tavern, and that is called casting pearl, or giving that which is holy to dogs, what [would we call it] if we took that which pigs and dogs enjoyed... 'faeces, and vomit' and served it up in the House of the Lord ( a gathering together of Christians in private (ie. in a physical building, or a private location, for the purpose of prayer, worship, Bible Study etc. ) ?'

OP 3
Vomit & Faeces in the House of the Lord ?

[The use of the phrases: 'sacred songs of worship and praise' and 'that which pigs and dogs enjoyed' refer to the words, and their meanings , not the music..]

'Now if we play ['sacred songs of worship and praise'] at the local tavern, and that is called casting pearl, or giving that which is holy to dogs, what [would we call it] if we took ['that which pigs and dogs enjoyed']... 'faeces, and vomit' and served it up in the House of the Lord ( a gathering together of Christians in private (ie. in a physical building, or a private location, for the purpose of prayer, worship, Bible Study etc. ) ?'

Now all I need to do is to find a metaphor that is the opposite of 'casting pearl before swine, or giving that which is holy to the dogs'. The best I have come up with so far is 'giving gold to a dead man'

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[RBerman]

Which vomitous songs have you heard used in worship?

[John Goddard]

Maybe serving up the lukewarm dung of solemn feasts, Malachi 2:3 & Revelation 3:16.

[Sparko]

I wonder if he is complaining about such 'horrible' songs as

"Awesome God" by Rick Mullins? (I love that song! it is simple, and evokes great emotion for worshiping!)



Does Headheart realize that the old hymns he likes were at one time considered "contemporary christian music" too?

[eudyptes]

He did answer the CCM question..."No"?

...however I am confused...okay normal state....as to what exactly he's getting at...

..."secular" music being played at church, maybe?

[Sparko]

I wish he would stop playing games and just say what he means.

[NormATive]

No.

Consider the following development of my opening post, as I responded to the questions raised by RBerman.

OP 1
Vomit & Faeces in the House of the Lord ?
Now if we play sacred songs of worship and praise at the local tavern, and that is called casting pearl, or giving that which is holy to dogs, what then would be the situation if we took that which pigs and dogs enjoyed... 'faeces, and vomit' and served it up in the House of the Lord ?

OP 2
Vomit & Faeces in the House of the Lord ?

'Now if we play sacred songs of worship and praise at the local tavern, and that is called casting pearl, or giving that which is holy to dogs, what [would we call it] if we took that which pigs and dogs enjoyed... 'faeces, and vomit' and served it up in the House of the Lord ( a gathering together of Christians in private (ie. in a physical building, or a private location, for the purpose of prayer, worship, Bible Study etc. ) ?'

OP 3
Vomit & Faeces in the House of the Lord ?

[The use of the phrases: 'sacred songs of worship and praise' and 'that which pigs and dogs enjoyed' refer to the words, and their meanings , not the music..]

'Now if we play ['sacred songs of worship and praise'] at the local tavern, and that is called casting pearl, or giving that which is holy to dogs, what [would we call it] if we took ['that which pigs and dogs enjoyed']... 'faeces, and vomit' and served it up in the House of the Lord ( a gathering together of Christians in private (ie. in a physical building, or a private location, for the purpose of prayer, worship, Bible Study etc. ) ?'

Now all I need to do is to find a metaphor that is the opposite of 'casting pearl before swine, or giving that which is holy to the dogs'. The best I have come up with so far is 'giving gold to a dead man'

65607

Seriously. Christian Contemporary Music is absolute swill. It makes me want to hurl because the lyrics sound like bubble-gum pop songs, and the losers singing the songs are having a love affair with Jesus. Even worse, they absolutely disrespect HaShem.

If I believed there was such a thing as the Abomination of Desolation, CCM would be it.

Not that it matters, though. Most churches are full of dead people. You know; whitewashed tombs.

NORM