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headheart
July 11th 2009, 05:18 AM
Dear John,
I guess it was my instinct that compelled me to move your comment from the 'sin nature' thread in Theology 201 (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=2675050&postcount=19), back where it belongs in Unorthodox Theology 201 and attempt to respond to some of your thoughts.

This is what you wrote....

Right now I accept evolution, that man evolved from animals, and operated on animal instinct until Adam. He was the firstfruits to become God conscious.
After that he was given God's Law, and part of that was, God consciousness -- the Tree of Life -- could keep him away from eating the forbidden fruit and from death. But Adam embraced his animal instinct, and when that violates God's Laws it becomes Satan and sin.

That's why the Mark of the Beast is simply rejecting God consciousness in favor of animal instinct, or to the extreme, Satan which causes you to lie, cheat, steal, kill for money, power, sex, etc. because doing so reverts you back to the beast nature and animal instinct.

So am I correct in concluding that you have seamed together the weakness in Evolution story of explaining God consciousness, with God consciousness as explained to us in the Creation story; thereby creating a triune nature of man. ie: God consciousness and animal instinct as well as 'the will'


Was 'the will' part of the animal instinct, or part of the God consciousness ?



Lately I have been reading some of JP Morelands writings and this quotation stood out like a beacon:

'Naturalists claim that evolutionary explanations can be offered for the appearance of all organisms and their parts. In principle, an evolutionary account could be given for increasingly complex physical structures that constitute different organisms.
One of the driving forces behind Charles Darwin’s exposition of evolution was the belief that all mental phenomena could be explained as features of physical objects.
However, if minds and consciousness exist, they would be beyond the explanatory scope of evolutionary theory, and this would threaten the theory’s plausibility.'
J.P. Moreland - Does the Mind provide evidence for the Existence of God (http://www.boundless.org/features/a0000901.html)

Sincerely,
HH.

Godservant
July 13th 2009, 03:03 PM
WHAT's the evolution of vanity for?

That's what I want to know.

John Goddard
July 13th 2009, 05:27 PM
Dear John,
I guess it was my instinct that compelled me to move your comment from the 'sin nature' thread in Theology 201 (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=2675050&postcount=19), back where it belongs in Unorthodox Theology 201 and attempt to respond to some of your thoughts.

This is what you wrote....

So am I correct in concluding that you have seamed together the weakness in Evolution story of explaining God consciousness, with God consciousness as explained to us in the Creation story; thereby creating a triune nature of man. ie: God consciousness and animal instinct as well as 'the will'

Was 'the will' part of the animal instinct, or part of the God consciousness ?

Lately I have been reading some of JP Morelands writings and this quotation stood out like a beacon:

Sincerely,
HH.

At first there is just animal instinct plus human will, and you do whatever you want without guilt like an animal.

Enter God consciousness and the Law and suddenly, some things are morally wrong. So the human will is influenced not to do them. Unless it disregards God consciousness and embraces the animal instinct, then humans revert.

Obsidian
July 15th 2009, 12:23 AM
I think Moreland's argument is weak. Evolutionists don't deny consciousness; they just deny that it exists apart from electrical activity.