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Socrates
November 21st 2003, 01:31 AM
BreakPoint | 17 Nov 03 | Chuck Colson

If you took your teenage daughter to the movies this summer, what did you see? Laura Sessions Stepp, who frequently writes on trends among adolescent girls, saw something that bothered her. But it's not what you might think.

In a thought-provoking article in the Washington Post, Stepp writes, “If you're a young Hollywood heroine today, you lip-sync your way to rock stardom overnight … win passage of a bill by giving [cosmetic] makeovers to members of Congress or solve murders by posing as a stripper cop. … You entertain, but you don't inspire, at least the way movies used to.” For these young women, she says, “Power lies largely in how you look and what you buy. … Perfection through consumption, that's the (young) American Way.”

Many of us are concerned—and rightly so—about teen culture's promotion of sexuality and violence. But I think Stepp has put her finger on a problem just as important: the encouragement of selfishness among our youth.

Movies like the Charlie's Angels franchise, Legally Blonde 2, The Lizzie Mcguire Movie, and other popular summer fare may pretend to teach about independence and maturity. But the truth is that real “character development” is out; consumerism and feel-good messages are in. Or as Stepp puts it, “Life revolves around these young women.” For the most part, instead of stories about girls who grow up facing real challenges and learning how to help others, we get fictional girls whose main concern is me, myself, and I. And that pervasive message is not doing real girls any good.

There's more than one factor at work here. For one thing, at a time when many adults act more irresponsible than teenagers, or want to stay juvenile, our definition of maturity has changed. For another, feminist leaders have long been putting pressure on both our educational system and our popular culture to try to make up for a supposed lack in girls' self-esteem (which is actually based on distorted data).

But the biggest factor may be that teenagers today have more spending money than ever before and have proven themselves vulnerable to marketing campaigns, which means that those campaigns grow more and more aggressive. And it's good marketing strategy to present the consumer with an image of herself the way she'd like to be: glamorous, independent of parental and moral restraints, easily able to overcome all obstacles. It's not good marketing strategy to suggest that she still has a lot to learn about the world, that there's life beyond adolescence, and that developing strong character is more important than instant gratification.

I'm not saying that every movie has to be serious; everybody needs a little comic relief now and then. I'm just saying that when frivolity and egotism become trendy among such an impressionable age group, we need to pay attention. Christian parents in particular have a duty to inoculate their children against these kinds of trends, for in our worldview, there is more to life than self-interest. We believe in the value of good character, humility, and self-sacrifice for the good of others. Let's make sure we're communicating what we believe to our kids and grandkids.

dawnghost
November 21st 2003, 12:50 PM
Today @ 05:31 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=303566#post303566)
Socrates:

But the truth is that real “character development” is out; consumerism and feel-good messages are in. Or as Stepp puts it, “Life revolves around these young women.” For the most part, instead of stories about girls who grow up facing real challenges and learning how to help others, we get fictional girls whose main concern is me, myself, and I. And that pervasive message is not doing real girls any good.

con·sum·er·ism (kn-sm-rzm) n.

1. The movement seeking to protect and inform consumers by requiring such practices as honest packaging and advertising, product guarantees, and improved safety standards.

2. The theory that a progressively greater consumption of goods is economically beneficial.

3. Attachment to materialistic values or possessions: deplored the rampant consumerism of contemporary society.


That's so weird. In english, you have one word to describe such different things.

In portuguese, we have "consumerismo" for the meaning number 1, and "consumismo" for the meaning number 3.

I was about to correct Socrates' post when I found out you don't have a specific word for the meaning number 3. :doh:

Patroclus
November 24th 2003, 01:38 AM
Socrates:

BreakPoint | 17 Nov 03 | Chuck Colson

If you took your teenage daughter to the movies this summer, what did you see? Laura Sessions Stepp, who frequently writes on trends among adolescent girls, saw something that bothered her. But it's not what you might think.

In a thought-provoking article in the Washington Post, Stepp writes, “If you're a young Hollywood heroine today, you lip-sync your way to rock stardom overnight … win passage of a bill by giving [cosmetic] makeovers to members of Congress or solve murders by posing as a stripper cop. … You entertain, but you don't inspire, at least the way movies used to.”

The lengthy intro, then...

For these young women, she says, “Power lies largely in how you look and what you buy. … Perfection through consumption, that's the (young) American Way.”

And though Colson decides to attack femenism, this is exactly the kind of thing that most femenists want their daughters to avoid. In both cases, the woman must employ some use of her sexuality to gain the advantage that she seeks. In the Leggally Blonde 2 allusion, the women are "dolled-up" for men - the focus is on pleasing men. For the stripper reference - again, the focus is on the pleasure of men.

Many of us are concerned—and rightly so—about teen culture's promotion of sexuality and violence. But I think Stepp has put her finger on a problem just as important: the encouragement of selfishness among our youth.

This is a good point, but he takes it in such an abysmally peripheral way.

Movies like the Charlie's Angels franchise, Legally Blonde 2, The Lizzie Mcguire Movie, and other popular summer fare may pretend to teach about independence and maturity. But the truth is that real “character development” is out; consumerism and feel-good messages are in. Or as Stepp puts it, “Life revolves around these young women.” For the most part, instead of stories about girls who grow up facing real challenges and learning how to help others, we get fictional girls whose main concern is me, myself, and I. And that pervasive message is not doing real girls any good.

Okay, but it is interesting that he is leaving out a good fifty percent of the sub-culture he is trying to reach: boys. This is not a strictly female concern.

There's more than one factor at work here. For one thing, at a time when many adults act more irresponsible than teenagers, or want to stay juvenile, our definition of maturity has changed.

And, he does not explain from what it has changed. Since when was the American dream about community? Since when has America not been about individuality? This is not a gender issue, this is an American issue. "I am proud to be an American..."

For another, feminist leaders have long been putting pressure on both our educational system and our popular culture to try to make up for a supposed lack in girls' self-esteem (which is actually based on distorted data).

What relevance does this have? What data?

But the biggest factor may be that teenagers today have more spending money than ever before and have proven themselves vulnerable to marketing campaigns, which means that those campaigns grow more and more aggressive. And it's good marketing strategy to present the consumer with an image of herself the way she'd like to be: glamorous, independent of parental and moral restraints, easily able to overcome all obstacles. It's not good marketing strategy to suggest that she still has a lot to learn about the world, that there's life beyond adolescence, and that developing strong character is more important than instant gratification.

Again, I think the biggest problem is not the amount of money that kids have (though I am sure that it compounds the issue) but that kids, and Americans in general, have very little sense of community.

I'm not saying that every movie has to be serious; everybody needs a little comic relief now and then. I'm just saying that when frivolity and egotism become trendy among such an impressionable age group, we need to pay attention. Christian parents in particular have a duty to inoculate their children against these kinds of trends, for in our worldview, there is more to life than self-interest. We believe in the value of good character, humility, and self-sacrifice for the good of others. Let's make sure we're communicating what we believe to our kids and grandkids.

Overall, interesting points with very little substance.

Stephen
November 24th 2003, 02:29 AM
Actually, coming from a teen myself, it seems like we're promoting anything but self. Commercials and Movies (Charlies angels as a prime example) are actually appealing to a team, not self. We're in an age where we've been learning not to work only for ourselves, but to work for the good of a team. Which is why if you'd notice, just about every good movie coming out has some team in it. Even all this stuff about being taught to try to fit in and be cool, is all because we want to be part of a team, or group in society.

So I'd say this is quite wrong, at least with everyone I am aware of, and I. Have you ever noticed that nowadays the movies are all about friendship, or groups, or mending relationships instead of always getting what the main character wants?

Matrix, neo sacrifices himself for the team of people who know the truth. Charlies angels they're in a team to fight. LOTR is all working for one, and one for all. It seems to me, at least, that we're part of a generation that is actually turned away by too much mention of self and not enough of others.

Just my thoughts

Penguin
November 24th 2003, 03:15 AM
Chuck Colson:

We believe in the value of good character, humility, and self-sacrifice for the good of others. Let's make sure we're communicating what we believe to our kids and grandkids.
Parents, as I have observed, haved failed miserably at this.

Though I've ALWAYS been SO humble, haha, I know I am very self-centered. The older I get, the more I realize it's a dog eat dog world. You got to watch out for #1 because no one else is. Sad, but mostly true.

^See what I mean. Parents have failed.