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Pilgrim
March 14th 2003, 04:43 PM
I was reading Zakath's signiture:

"Truth does not demand belief. Scientists do not join hands every Sunday, singing, "yes, gravity is real! I will have faith!" - Dan Barker

I started wondering if that was entirely true. Is there a liturgy of Science?

I'm not sure, but I thought it might make a good conversation. So what do you think? Is ther any Liturgy in Science?

Pilgrim
Sozo
March 14th 2003, 04:55 PM
03-14-2003 @ 02:43 PM
Pilgrim:

I was reading Zakath's signiture:



I started wondering if that was entirely true. Is there a liturgy of Science?

I'm not sure, but I thought it might make a good conversation. So what do you think? Is ther any Liturgy in Science?

Pilgrim


I don't know if Science has a Liturgy, but I absolutely agree with his sig line.

Believing something never makes it true. But the truth can make you a believer, and some people have just not found the truth yet.

Zakath may very well need to step out of his loft to believe in gravity.
RufusAtticus
March 14th 2003, 04:56 PM
03-14-2003 @ 03:43 PM
Pilgrim:
Is there a liturgy of Science?


No.
Pilgrim
March 14th 2003, 07:57 PM
No creeds at all then Ruffus?
RufusAtticus
March 16th 2003, 01:03 AM
Nope, nothing that I've come across.
Pilgrim
March 16th 2003, 10:21 AM
I guess that I was thinking that The Scientific Method itself could be a creed or confession of sorts.

Or any of the guidlines established by the academe in general. Or one might even say that the standards to be met by Peer Reviewd Journals might be a sort of Creed.

how about the Hypocratic Oath in Medical Science?

I don't know, I've just been thinking about it.
Stratnerd
March 16th 2003, 09:26 PM
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I guess that I was thinking that The Scientific Method itself could be a creed or confession of sorts.
I think that the scientific method is changing. At least in my field, ecology, the classic "confront hypothesis with data" (practically, a model's p value is examined against a single null) is being replaced with model competition (practically, the R-squared or log-likelihood values of several models are compared and ranked via Akaike Information Criterion)

There's an interesting article by Ruse that you might want to read at http://www.sciencemag.org/feature/data/150essay.shl