The Book Of Yashu'a Is The Book Of Revelation The Evangel Or Al Injiyl

[Ezraarah]

The Second Testament ( which is referred to as The New Testament ) was compiled in 325 A.D. by the Council of Nicaea , and consisted of 27 books. Although the Second Testament is thought to be the Book of Yashua the Messiah , it is not The Book Of Yashua , Isa , Jesus , Is the book of Revelation the Evangel or Al Injiyl of Isaiah 40 ; 13 - 14 <> Who hath directed the Spirit of the Lord , or being his counselor hath taught him ? With whom took he counsel and who instructed him and taught him in the path of judgement and taught him knowledge and showed to him the way of understanding ?
Luke 1 ; 32 - 33 , 80 , 2 ;40 , 52 ,
He shall be great , and shall be called the Son of the Highest ; and the Lord , God shall give unto him the throne of his father David And he shall reign over the house of Jacob forever ; and of his kingdom there shall be no end . ;... And the child grew , and waxed strong in spirit . and was in the deserts till the day of his showing unto Israel ;... And the child grew , and waxed strong in spirit filled with wisdom and the grace of Godwas upon him ;... And Jesus increased in wisdom And stature and in favor with God and man .
Revelation 1 ; 1 <> The Revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave unto him , to , show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass ; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John ; <> OverStanding Of This Verse <> The Revelation of the Messiah Yashu'a . Isa , Jesus , which Theos who is his Heavenly Father Know As Allah to the Muslims , Yahweh to the Hebrews , Dammuzi to the Sumerians , and God to the Christians , Osiris to the Egyptians , gave to him , in order for him to teach his servants , the followers of the Messiah Yashua , Isa , Jesus , Who to the Sumerians is < Tammuz = Ezekiel 8 ; 14 Son of Ishtar and Dammuzi > Horus , son of Osiris and Isis to the Egyptian , Isa Ibn Jibraiyl andMary to the Arab , and Yashua Bar Yowef and Miriam to the Hebrew , Khrishna son of Vishnu and Devaky to the Hindus , and Lord son of Mary and the Holy Ghost to the Christian About that which must happen very quickly , and to record and send it by way of my prophet , the newbearer John'sson of Zebedee and Salome , hands through Malachi Zodoq , Melchisedek , the Sun of Righteousness also called Murdoq , his Messenger for his servant the newbearer John , son of Zebedee and Salome
This book was given to Yowkhanan , Yuhanna , John son of Zebedee by an angel but it's Yashua , Isa , Jesus ' own book Revelation 1 ; 1 ;... For his servant Yowkhanan , Yuhanna , John son of Zebedee in the year 96 A.D. to show . This is the only book in The Holy Bible attributed to Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih Jesus The Messiah . The remaining twenty - six books are listed below ;
Twenty - seven man - made books of the Second Testament
St. Matthew 41 A.D.... St, Mark 65 .A.D... St. Luke 58 A.D...St . John 98 A.D...
The Acts 61 A.D... Epistle To Romans 56 A.D.... 1Corinthians 55 A.D... 2Cornthians 55 A.D... Galatians 52 A.D. Ephesians 61 A.D. Philippians 61 A.D...
Colossians 61 A.D... 1Thesslonians 50 A.D... 2Thessalonians 51 A.D... 1Timothy 64 A.D.... 2Timothy 65 A.D... Titus 64 A.D... Philemon 61 A.D... Epistle 61 A.D... Epistle of James 62 A.D...1Peter 64 A.D... 1Peter 64 A.D... 1John 98A.D... 2John 98 A.D... 3John 98 A.D...Jude 65 A.D.... Revelation 96 A.D.... Of the 27 mam made books , only 4 of these books are considered - The Major Gospels .
Matthew written by Matthew 41 A.D....Mark written by Mark 65 A.D..... Luke written by Luke 58 A.D.... John written by John 98 A.D.... These four men are supposed to hold the true accounts of the life and mission of Yashu's Isa , Jesus . HowEver only two of the four are true disciple Matthew 10 ; 1 - 6 <> And when he had called unto him his twelve disciple he gave them power against unclean spirits . to cast them out , and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease . Now the names of the twelve apostles are these ; The first , Simon , who is called Peter , and Andrew his brother ; James the son of Zebedee , and John his brother ; Philip and Bartholomew ; Thomas , and Matthew the publican James the son of Alphaeus , and Lebbaeus whose surname was Thaddaeus ; Simon the Canaanite , and Judas ' Iscariot , who also betrayed him . These twelve Jesus sent forth and commanded them saying Go Not Into The Way Of The Gentiles And Into Any City Of The Samaritans Enter Ye Not But Go Rather To The Lost Sheep Of The House Of Israel . ;....
Matthan , Mattay , Matthew , was a tax collector who authored The Book Of Matthew in 41 A.D. and Yowkhanan , Yuhanna , John ( Zebedee ) was a fisherman who authored The Book of John in 98 A.D.. John 's 3 letters .. 1st John 98 A.D.... 2ndJohn 98 A.D... 3rd John 98 A.D. and Revelation 96 A.D. The remaining two authors of the Gospels are Yowkhanan , Markos, John - Mark who was aproperty owner and was the nephew of Barne - bee ' . Barnaabaa , Barnabas Yowkhanan , Markos , John - Mark travelled with Barne - bee Barnaabaa , Barnabas and Saul . Shaool . Paul . in the year 45 A.D. when they went on their first missionary journey , And Lud , Luqa , Luke who was a physician who authored The Book of Luke in 58 A,D, <> Matthew , Mattay , Matthew ( 3 B.C. 64 A.D. ) A Disciple of Yashua , Isa , Jesus
Ques ; Who Was Matthew ?
Ans ; Matthan , Mattay . Matthew Son Kheehlef and Mayrawb was the older son of two boys and four girls . of the disciples . Matthan , Mattay , Matthew was the 8th disciple to be called Matthew 10 ; 1 - 3 <> And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples he gave them power against unclean spirits to cast them out and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease ;.. Now the name of the twelve apostles are these ; The first Simon , who is called Peter , and Andrew hid brother ; James the son Zebedee , and John His Brother ;... Philip and Bartholomew ; Thomas And Matthew the publican James the son of Alphaeus , and Lebbaeus whose suname was Thaddacus . ;...
Matthan , Mattay , Matthew was called the publivan in Matthew 10 ; 3 ... The publicans were people who formed the Roman raxes and they were usually , in later times . Roman knights , and and persons of wealth and credit . as a publican , one would have to be an expert in languages , especially Syiac '' Arabic '' Galilean and Aramic ( Hebrew ) and some Roman Latin '' and Yavan '' Greek '' in order to communicate with the farmers and others froms whom taxes were collected . Yet with all of this knowledge , when Yashua , Isa , Jesus called Matthan Mattay . Matthew , he heeded the call quit his job , and followed the master Matthew 9 ; 9 <> And as Jesus passed forth from thence , he saw a man , named Matthew sitting at the receip of custom and he saith unto him Follow me . and he arose and followed him ;...
As an Israelite religious believer of the tribe of Judah , he left his occupation as tax collector in order to become a disciples of Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus Matthew 9 ; 9 - 10 <> And as Jesus passed forth from thence , he saw a man , named Matthew sitting at the receip of custom and he saith unto him Follow me . and he arose and followed him , And it came to pass , as Jesus sat at meat in the house , behold many publicans and sinner came and sat down with him and his disciple
Ques ; Who Was John Mark ?
Ans ; Yowkhanan , Markos , John - Mark son of ,Levi ( 14 B.C. - 60 A.D. ) and Mary ( 1 B.C. - 63 A.D. ) was aself - proclaimed disciple of Yashu's , Isa , Jesus , and a cousin of Barne - Bee ' Barnaabaa , Barnabas ( Colossians 4 ; 10 <> Aristarchus my fellow prisoner saluteth you , and Marcus , sister's son to Barnabas ( touching whom ye received commandments ; if he come unto you reveive him ) ;..
Who was a Levite . Yowkhanan Markos , John - Mark was not considered as one of the twelve disciple of Yashua , Isa , Jesus , He became an evangelist and traveled with Barne - bee , Barnaabaa , Barnabas and Saul Shaool , Paul . as they did their ministerial jobs . Mark Accompanied Saul . Shaool . Paul . and Barne - bee . Barnaabaa , Barnabas as their minister or their first missionary journey . Yowkhanan . Markos . John - Mark served as a deacon and a servant to Saul . Shaool . Paul . He translated Saul , Shaool . Paul's . sermons into Greek so that the Goyim or Akum , which means heathen or Gentile , could understand and he attened to Saul , Shaool . Paul's needs Yowkhhanan , Markos , John - Mark Did Not Continue with Saul Shaool , Paul on his journey . Saul . Shaool . Paul was going further into Pisidian Antioch , and planned on working with the Gentiles . Yowkhanan , Markos , John - Mark did not agree with this change of plan and decided not to continue following Saul , Shaool , Paul in his missionary journey .
Ques ; Who was Luke ?
Ans ; He was the evangelist son of Abda and Hodesh , and the writer of the third Gospel and Acts of the Apostles . He was born in Antioch in Syria in 4B.C , Lud , Luqa , Luke wa a Greek / Gentile , but of the seed of Asshur Genesis 10 ; 21 <>
Unto Shem also , the father of all the children of Eber , the brother of Japheth the elder , even to him were children born ;..
So you see . neither Yowkhanan , Markos . John - Mark Nor Lud . Luqa , Luke were disciples of Yashua , Isa , Jesus , They were both companions of Saul . Shaool . Paul . They , like Saul , Shaool , Paul never met Yashua . Isa . Jesus , Their Writing were only based on HearSay And were not Divinely Inspired . That's why their books are not the same as John's book . But the 3 ; Matthew , Mark and Luke are much more alike . For agreement LQQk at ...
Matthew 9 ; 2 - 8 <>Mark 2 ; 3 - 12 <> Luke 5 ; 18 - 26 <> Then look at Matthew 10 ; 22 <> Mark 13 ; 13 <>Luke 21 ; 17 <>
So Christian base their whole like on men who didn't even knowYashua , Isa , Jesus 96% Mark's book came from the Book of Matthew .

[Rubia Warren]

dang..... there is something about your posting style that is so difficult to concentrate on and read- something visual, I mean.

[bar Jonah]

No kidding. I"m not even inclined to read it, because you've made it so difficult. :ahem:

[Ezraarah]

dang..... there is something about your posting style that is so difficult to concentrate on and read- something visual, I mean.
Put Your Glasses On Take Your Time And Read Veryyyyyy Slowly . Then Reasearch Same .. Most Never Research AnyThing They Are Taught Or What They Read They Just Believe =Belief Is Ignorance . Belief Is To Ignore The Facts Intentionally Or Ignorantly , If One Has To Believe , It Means He Or She Does Not Know . And If One Does Not Know , That Is Ignorance . Hence Belief Is Ignorance And Religious Belief WithOut The Facts Is Ignorance , ( Got The Point )..... Just Food For Thought

[One Bad Pig]

:no: I don't think you got the point. That post is almost as bad as the first.

[jason]

Then Reasearch Same .. Most Never Research AnyThing They Are Taught Or What They Read They Just Believe =Belief Is Ignorance . Belief Is To Ignore The Facts Intentionally Or Ignorantly When are you going to answer the problems with your "research" in the other thread ?

Or are you still running like the craven heretic you are ?

In case you forget it is the thread What is paradoxical about the Trinity? (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21087) and it is Post #60 (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showpost.php?p=473932&postcount=60).

Remeber how you claimed there was a grand conspiracy in the Latin translation of the Bible by Jerome (finished in 405) to include the trinity concept, and I noted that Tertullian had written a long defense of the trinity in Against Praxeas in 220AD.

I'm still awaiting more "research" from you that explains this.

Now I guess you don't have an answer or we would have been treated to a page of unreadable "research" that defends your claim.

But I have ample patience and am resolved to seeing you answer this if you can. (Let me goad you a bit ... which you can't and wont because you don't know what you are talking about)

Jason

[Ezraarah]

The Roman Catholic Church Inserted The Trinity , The Trinity Never Existed ?

you ask any Christian who are these Verse pertaining to they would Answer
( WithOut A Doubt In Their Minds ) . that these Verse are Speaking of The Messiah Yashua , Also Take A LQQk At The Many Titles Which Are Attributed To Him . < Biblical Names Attributed To The Messiah Yashua >
The seed of woman < Genesis 3 ; 15 > The caption of Savation < Job 5 ; 13 - 14 > Wonderful < Isaiah 9 ; 6 ; Judge 13 ; 8 > I am that I am < Ex odus 3 ; 14 > The mighty God < Isaiah 9 ; 6 > Emmanuel < Isaiah 7; 14 > The Rose of Sharon lilly of the valley < Song of Solomon 2 ; 1 > Theprince of pace < Isaiah 9- 6 > The Mediator < 1Timothy 2 ; 5 > The helper < Hebrew 13 ; 6> The Rewarder of Faith < Hebrew11 ; 6 > The Branch < Zachariah 6 ; 12 > A Man of sorrows < Isaiah 53 ; 3 > The Bringer of Good Tidings < Isaiah 41 ; 27 > The Chief Cornerstone < Isaiah 28 ; 16 > The Redeemer < Job 19 ; 25 >
This is only a small list of the different names that are Attributed to The Messiah Yashua Without Even His Name Being Mentioned . I Repeat The Name '' Yashua / Jesus '' IS NOT FOUND IN ANY OF THESE VERSE . HowEver , You Have Christian Will Undoubtedly Tell You That These Verse Are In Fact Speaking About The Messiah Yashua < NOT >
I Again Repeat The Name '' Yashua / Jesus '' IS NOT FOUND IN ANY OF THESE VERSE .. OverStand SomeThing Ok I Deal Only In Facts Ok
God The Father , Then You Have Humanity As His Children , And The Holy Ghost Are The AngelicBeings , You Are Useing 1John 5 ; 7 As If It Is Authentic When In Fact It Has Been Proven To Be A Distorted Scripture Nor Does It Exist In Any Of The Original Manuscripts I Don't Try To Discredit AnyThing Or AnyOne I Just State The Facts , And I Am Only Interested In The Facts . To Answer Your Question . When The Bible Was In Its Original Language Of Aramaic ( Hebrew ) Arabic And Galilean Arabic , The Verse 1John 5 ; 7 , That Has Become The Foundation For The 3 Beings In 1 Concept Called The Trinity DID NOT EXIST , It Also DID NOT EXIST IN GREEK , The Distortion With The Onset Of The Roman Catholic Church The Roman Catholic Inserted The Trinity Verse When They Translated The Bible From Greek To Latin I Purposely Said '' Inserted '' And Not '' Translated '' Because , As I've Already Said The Original Greek Did Not Have This Verse . HowEver , You Will Find Some Greek Translation Have Either The Whole Trinity Verse Or Only A Portion Of It , 1John 5; 7 Is Surround In Controversy Because There Are Two Versions Of This Verse Your Bibilical Scholars Say 1John 5; 7 . That Is Used In Most Bibles Today . Is Either Not The Origian Verse . Or They Say That Its Only Partially Genuine . There Have Been Many Arguments Between Scholars On This Subject When In Fact There Shouldn't Be Any Arguments Because The Original Aramaic And The Greek Manuscripts Don't Have This 1John 5 ; 7 , In It . The Problem Is They Really Don't Want To Admit That The Trinity Really Has No Basis In The Teaching Of Yashua , Making The Trinitarian Churches And Any Other Sect That Believe In This 3 In 1 Concept Obsolete , FurtherMore , In The Ancient Eastern Manusripts By George M Lamsa Which Is A Bible That Is Translated From The Original Aramaic And Syriac Language On Page 1222 , In 1John 5 ; 7 , You Will See That The Orginal Verse Says This ;...
Original Verse <> And The Spirit Testifies That That Very Spirit Is The Truth
Mistraslation <> This is he who came by water and blood , even Jesus Christ , not by water only , but water and blood , And theSpirit testifies that that very Spirt is the truth . And there are three to bear witness the Spirit and , the water and the blood ; and these three are one ,
Now , When You Read 1 John 5 ; 7 In Your Standard Bible , You Will Read This ,
1John 5 ; 7 <> For there are three that bear , Record in heaven , the father , the Word , and the holy ghost ; And these three are one . Do You See How The Verse Were Distorted ? They Are Both 1John 5 ; 7 , But They Don't Say The Same Thing ! That's Because In Your Standard Or Revised Edittion Bible , You Will Find The Original , Verse 5; 7 Has Been Actually Pushed Up To Merge With Verse 5; 6 . Now LQQk At 1John 5 ; 6 Below
'' This is he that came by water and , Blood , even Jesus Christ ; not by Water only , but by water and Blood And It Is The Spirit That Beareth Witness Because The Spirit Is Truth '' ;...The Underlined Segment Is Really The Original 1John 5 ; 7 By Combining The Original Verse 5 ;6 And 5 ; 7 Together , This Left Verse 5 ; 7 Made It Conviently Free To Insert The False '' Trinity '' Verse . Just In Case You Think I Made This Up . Clarke's Commentary Also States That In The Very Early Bibles , This Verse Didn't Exist Clarke's Commentary Says This About 1John 5 ; 7 ;... '' But It Is Likely This Verse Is Not Genuine . It Is Wanting ( Missing ) In Every M .S . ( Manuscript ) Og This Epistle Written Before The Invention Of Printing . One Expecyed . The Condex Montfortii , In '' Trinity College , Dublin ; The Others Which Omit , This Verse Amount To One Hundred And Twelve . It Is Wanting ( Missing ) In Both The Syriac . All The Arabic , Ethiopic , The Coptic , Sahidic .Armenian , Slavonian , In A Word , In All The Ancient Versions . But The Vulgate And Even Of This Version Many Of The Most Ancient And Correct , MSS . Have It Not .. It Is Wanting ( Missing ) Also In All Ancient Greek Father , And In Most Even Of The Latin So What About Those Who Say A Portion Of The Quote Is True , Then There Are Those Scholars Who That Only Part Of This Quote Is Genuine Once Again , Let's Go Back To 1John 5 ; 7 In Your Standard Bible . < '' For There Are Three That Bear Record In Heaven , The Father , The Word , And The Holy Ghost , And These Three Are One > The Underlined Part Of This Quote Is The Part That Your So - Called Scholars Say Is Genuine . Some Bibles Are Equipped With Notes And Small Commentaries To Help You OverStand The Verses You Are Reading . If You Have Such A Bible . It Will Most Likely Say The Same Thing . For Instance , On Page 1776 In The Ryrie Study Bible It Says ;
Verse7 For there are three that bear record in heaven , The father the word , and the Holy Ghost and these three are one .
Commentary 5 ; 7 - 8 Should end with the word record The remander of Verse 7 And part of Verse 8 , Are Not In Any Ancient Greek Manuscript . Only In Later Latin Manuscripts .
Now , They Say Verse 7 And Verse 8 Is Only Partially Genuine . There Are Even Some Greek Translation That Also Supports This Version , But That's Because They Were Translated From English Back Into Greek 1John 5 ; 7 Was Just Another Way To Confuse And Add Another False Sect And Belief . It Is One Of Those Things That Are Kept Quiet Because That Would Be The End Of Some People's Faith And That Is Something That People Who Promote Religion For A Profit Can't Afford To Do .
( The Difference Between Afact And The Truth Is ; Truth Is Accepted Facts Are Confirmed ) Again The Trinity Never Existed
First Yashua Was The Son Of Yahuwa Then The Foolish Among You Turn Him Into Yahuwa HimSelf ... Food For Though , If Yashua / Son Of Yahuwa Is The Way To Yahuwa / God ... And You Called Yashua / Son Of Yahuwa / God ... God Then My Question Where Is Yashua / Son Of Yahuwa / God ... Is Takeing You ... ; - ]

[Chuck Lee]

Wow.

Unintelligible in any font.

The amount of research would be impressive if it made any kind of linguistic sense.

[One Bad Pig]

When The Bible Was In Its Original Language Of Aramaic ( Hebrew ) Arabic And Galilean Arabic
Where do you dig up this arab-centric nonsense?

The Verse 1John 5 ; 7 , That Has Become The Foundation For The 3 Beings In 1 Concept Called The Trinity DID NOT EXIST , It Also DID NOT EXIST IN GREEK
It's not the foundation for anyone who's done a little research and doesn't cling rabidly to the KJV(and it's only in the KJV because people whinged that it wasn't included in Erasmus' initial Gk NT, and he later included it under pressure). The verse was traced to a 4th-century Latin commentary.
However, the Trinity doesn't stand or fall with 1 John 5:7. Sorry to rain on your rant.

[kofh2u]

The Second Testament ( which is referred to as The New Testament ) was compiled in 325 A.D. by the Council of Nicaea , and consisted of 27 books. Although the Second Testament is thought to be the Book of Yashua the Messiah , it is not The Book Of Yashua , Isa , Jesus , Is the book of Revelation the Evangel or Al Injiyl of Isaiah 40 ; 13 - 14 <> Who hath directed the Spirit of the Lord , or being his counselor hath taught him ? With whom took he counsel and who instructed him and taught him in the path of judgement and taught him knowledge and showed to him the way of understanding ?
Luke 1 ; 32 - 33 , 80 , 2 ;40 , 52 ,
He shall be great , and shall be called the Son of the Highest ; and the Lord , God shall give unto him the throne of his father David And he shall reign over the house of Jacob forever ; and of his kingdom there shall be no end . ;... And the child grew , and waxed strong in spirit . and was in the deserts till the day of his showing unto Israel ;... And the child grew , and waxed strong in spirit filled with wisdom and the grace of Godwas upon him ;... And Jesus increased in wisdom And stature and in favor with God and man .
Revelation 1 ; 1 <> The Revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave unto him , to , show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass ; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John ; <> OverStanding Of This Verse <> The Revelation of the Messiah Yashu'a . Isa , Jesus , which Theos who is his Heavenly Father Know As Allah to the Muslims , Yahweh to the Hebrews , Dammuzi to the Sumerians , and God to the Christians , Osiris to the Egyptians , gave to him , in order for him to teach his servants , the followers of the Messiah Yashua , Isa , Jesus , Who to the Sumerians is < Tammuz = Ezekiel 8 ; 14 Son of Ishtar and Dammuzi > Horus , son of Osiris and Isis to the Egyptian , Isa Ibn Jibraiyl andMary to the Arab , and Yashua Bar Yowef and Miriam to the Hebrew , Khrishna son of Vishnu and Devaky to the Hindus , and Lord son of Mary and the Holy Ghost to the Christian About that which must happen very quickly , and to record and send it by way of my prophet , the newbearer John'sson of Zebedee and Salome , hands through Malachi Zodoq , Melchisedek , the Sun of Righteousness also called Murdoq , his Messenger for his servant the newbearer John , son of Zebedee and Salome
This book was given to Yowkhanan , Yuhanna , John son of Zebedee by an angel but it's Yashua , Isa , Jesus ' own book Revelation 1 ; 1 ;... For his servant Yowkhanan , Yuhanna , John son of Zebedee in the year 96 A.D. to show . This is the only book in The Holy Bible attributed to Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih Jesus The Messiah . The remaining twenty - six books are listed below ;
Twenty - seven man - made books of the Second Testament
St. Matthew 41 A.D.... St, Mark 65 .A.D... St. Luke 58 A.D...St . John 98 A.D...
The Acts 61 A.D... Epistle To Romans 56 A.D.... 1Corinthians 55 A.D... 2Cornthians 55 A.D... Galatians 52 A.D. Ephesians 61 A.D. Philippians 61 A.D...
Colossians 61 A.D... 1Thesslonians 50 A.D... 2Thessalonians 51 A.D... 1Timothy 64 A.D.... 2Timothy 65 A.D... Titus 64 A.D... Philemon 61 A.D... Epistle 61 A.D... Epistle of James 62 A.D...1Peter 64 A.D... 1Peter 64 A.D... 1John 98A.D... 2John 98 A.D... 3John 98 A.D...Jude 65 A.D.... Revelation 96 A.D.... Of the 27 mam made books , only 4 of these books are considered - The Major Gospels .
Matthew written by Matthew 41 A.D....Mark written by Mark 65 A.D..... Luke written by Luke 58 A.D.... John written by John 98 A.D.... These four men are supposed to hold the true accounts of the life and mission of Yashu's Isa , Jesus . HowEver only two of the four are true disciple Matthew 10 ; 1 - 6 <> And when he had called unto him his twelve disciple he gave them power against unclean spirits . to cast them out , and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease . Now the names of the twelve apostles are these ; The first , Simon , who is called Peter , and Andrew his brother ; James the son of Zebedee , and John his brother ; Philip and Bartholomew ; Thomas , and Matthew the publican James the son of Alphaeus , and Lebbaeus whose surname was Thaddaeus ; Simon the Canaanite , and Judas ' Iscariot , who also betrayed him . These twelve Jesus sent forth and commanded them saying Go Not Into The Way Of The Gentiles And Into Any City Of The Samaritans Enter Ye Not But Go Rather To The Lost Sheep Of The House Of Israel . ;....
Matthan , Mattay , Matthew , was a tax collector who authored The Book Of Matthew in 41 A.D. and Yowkhanan , Yuhanna , John ( Zebedee ) was a fisherman who authored The Book of John in 98 A.D.. John 's 3 letters .. 1st John 98 A.D.... 2ndJohn 98 A.D... 3rd John 98 A.D. and Revelation 96 A.D. The remaining two authors of the Gospels are Yowkhanan , Markos, John - Mark who was aproperty owner and was the nephew of Barne - bee ' . Barnaabaa , Barnabas Yowkhanan , Markos , John - Mark travelled with Barne - bee Barnaabaa , Barnabas and Saul . Shaool . Paul . in the year 45 A.D. when they went on their first missionary journey , And Lud , Luqa , Luke who was a physician who authored The Book of Luke in 58 A,D, <> Matthew , Mattay , Matthew ( 3 B.C. 64 A.D. ) A Disciple of Yashua , Isa , Jesus
Ques ; Who Was Matthew ?
Ans ; Matthan , Mattay . Matthew Son Kheehlef and Mayrawb was the older son of two boys and four girls . of the disciples . Matthan , Mattay , Matthew was the 8th disciple to be called Matthew 10 ; 1 - 3 <> And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples he gave them power against unclean spirits to cast them out and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease ;.. Now the name of the twelve apostles are these ; The first Simon , who is called Peter , and Andrew hid brother ; James the son Zebedee , and John His Brother ;... Philip and Bartholomew ; Thomas And Matthew the publican James the son of Alphaeus , and Lebbaeus whose suname was Thaddacus . ;...
Matthan , Mattay , Matthew was called the publivan in Matthew 10 ; 3 ... The publicans were people who formed the Roman raxes and they were usually , in later times . Roman knights , and and persons of wealth and credit . as a publican , one would have to be an expert in languages , especially Syiac '' Arabic '' Galilean and Aramic ( Hebrew ) and some Roman Latin '' and Yavan '' Greek '' in order to communicate with the farmers and others froms whom taxes were collected . Yet with all of this knowledge , when Yashua , Isa , Jesus called Matthan Mattay . Matthew , he heeded the call quit his job , and followed the master Matthew 9 ; 9 <> And as Jesus passed forth from thence , he saw a man , named Matthew sitting at the receip of custom and he saith unto him Follow me . and he arose and followed him ;...
As an Israelite religious believer of the tribe of Judah , he left his occupation as tax collector in order to become a disciples of Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus Matthew 9 ; 9 - 10 <> And as Jesus passed forth from thence , he saw a man , named Matthew sitting at the receip of custom and he saith unto him Follow me . and he arose and followed him , And it came to pass , as Jesus sat at meat in the house , behold many publicans and sinner came and sat down with him and his disciple
Ques ; Who Was John Mark ?
Ans ; Yowkhanan , Markos , John - Mark son of ,Levi ( 14 B.C. - 60 A.D. ) and Mary ( 1 B.C. - 63 A.D. ) was aself - proclaimed disciple of Yashu's , Isa , Jesus , and a cousin of Barne - Bee ' Barnaabaa , Barnabas ( Colossians 4 ; 10 <> Aristarchus my fellow prisoner saluteth you , and Marcus , sister's son to Barnabas ( touching whom ye received commandments ; if he come unto you reveive him ) ;..
Who was a Levite . Yowkhanan Markos , John - Mark was not considered as one of the twelve disciple of Yashua , Isa , Jesus , He became an evangelist and traveled with Barne - bee , Barnaabaa , Barnabas and Saul Shaool , Paul . as they did their ministerial jobs . Mark Accompanied Saul . Shaool . Paul . and Barne - bee . Barnaabaa , Barnabas as their minister or their first missionary journey . Yowkhanan . Markos . John - Mark served as a deacon and a servant to Saul . Shaool . Paul . He translated Saul , Shaool . Paul's . sermons into Greek so that the Goyim or Akum , which means heathen or Gentile , could understand and he attened to Saul , Shaool . Paul's needs Yowkhhanan , Markos , John - Mark Did Not Continue with Saul Shaool , Paul on his journey . Saul . Shaool . Paul was going further into Pisidian Antioch , and planned on working with the Gentiles . Yowkhanan , Markos , John - Mark did not agree with this change of plan and decided not to continue following Saul , Shaool , Paul in his missionary journey .
Ques ; Who was Luke ?
Ans ; He was the evangelist son of Abda and Hodesh , and the writer of the third Gospel and Acts of the Apostles . He was born in Antioch in Syria in 4B.C , Lud , Luqa , Luke wa a Greek / Gentile , but of the seed of Asshur Genesis 10 ; 21 <>
Unto Shem also , the father of all the children of Eber , the brother of Japheth the elder , even to him were children born ;..
So you see . neither Yowkhanan , Markos . John - Mark Nor Lud . Luqa , Luke were disciples of Yashua , Isa , Jesus , They were both companions of Saul . Shaool . Paul . They , like Saul , Shaool , Paul never met Yashua . Isa . Jesus , Their Writing were only based on HearSay And were not Divinely Inspired . That's why their books are not the same as John's book . But the 3 ; Matthew , Mark and Luke are much more alike . For agreement LQQk at ...
Matthew 9 ; 2 - 8 <>Mark 2 ; 3 - 12 <> Luke 5 ; 18 - 26 <> Then look at Matthew 10 ; 22 <> Mark 13 ; 13 <>Luke 21 ; 17 <>
So Christian base their whole like on men who didn't even knowYashua , Isa , Jesus 96% Mark's book came from the Book of Matthew .



1) Thanks. We all needed that, a run down on the over view. Very informative.

2) You bring up, but you do not offer anything new in the observation that these men were not destitute impoverished guys. They came to participate in this work of Jesus, not in a prior faith and saintliness of tgeir former character, but because he gave them something.

I quote you below:

"And when he had called unto him his twelve disciple he gave them...
... power against unclean spirits . to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease."

So, these men were not touched by a magic wand, nor were they coerced. They cohered to Jesus because he gave them an unstoppable power of some sort, a power (I'll describe it elsewhere) which they could take to an illiterate people.
They could gather what the church today calls a congregation, Hollywood calls an audience, and they called "great multitudes." This whole thing in 32AD began for the apostles as "Show Business," they had something to show. They performed a show.

Why else? Would Jesus have forced or used metaphysical means to insist that these men join him?

"Yet with all of this knowledge , when Yashua , Isa , Jesus called Matthan Mattay . Matthew , he heeded the call quit his job , and followed the master." Why? God made him? I don't think that is spported as God;s way, is it?

3) No. They followed because they saw what the plan (seemed) to be. He gave something which would make them a part in the plan. The plan wasn't to include crucifixion,, as far as they first understood.
What he gave them was the same "hidden manna" (Rev 2) available right now.

This hidden manna us not the rather intangibke metaphysical salvation Christian denominations offer today. Amaasing the super-mega crowds of 5000 and 7000 was a eay big business then, comoarable to the rick stars crowds of 40,000 now.

He gave them something very concrete, rational, and tangible, believe me in this,... and something that the masses wanted.

Though what he gave them, it does give the power to heal to he who demonstrates it to others, nevertheless, the healing that takes place is afforded by the faith of the person, the needy person. That is, faith in the power of God before him is what heals.

[kofh2u]

When are you going to answer the problems with your "research" in the other thread ?

Or are you still running like the craven heretic you are ?

In case you forget it is the thread What is paradoxical about the Trinity? (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21087) and it is Post #60 (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showpost.php?p=473932&postcount=60).

Remeber how you claimed there was a grand conspiracy in the Latin translation of the Bible by Jerome (finished in 405) to include the trinity concept, and I noted that Tertullian had written a long defense of the trinity in Against Praxeas in 220AD.

I'm still awaiting more "research" from you that explains this.

Now I guess you don't have an answer or we would have been treated to a page of unreadable "research" that defends your claim.

But I have ample patience and am resolved to seeing you answer this if you can. (Let me goad you a bit ... which you can't and wont because you don't know what you are talking about)

Jason


You seem to have him on that fine point, for sure. He didn't have as much research as you did! I guess you win.

But, here, in this posting, he makes an important observation. This observation is merely common sense. Why didvthese twelve men get into this with Jesus? Did he "make them" follow him? What did they first hear or understand that caused them to quit jobs and crafts? What was this first most elementary evangelium?

(See post before this)

[Ezraarah]

You Know The More I Ready You Silly People Answer I More I See You People Know Nothing About You Own Belief . And You Really Think Your Saying Intellgient
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[Christianotaku]

I think we should all put him on ignore or opp for a ban of this character because his above post seems psychologically begot and I think he needs proffesional help :smile:

[Ezraarah]

When are you going to answer the problems with your "research" in the other thread ?

Or are you still running like the craven heretic you are ?

In case you forget it is the thread What is paradoxical about the Trinity? (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21087) and it is Post #60 (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showpost.php?p=473932&postcount=60).

Remeber how you claimed there was a grand conspiracy in the Latin translation of the Bible by Jerome (finished in 405) to include the trinity concept, and I noted that Tertullian had written a long defense of the trinity in Against Praxeas in 220AD.

I'm still awaiting more "research" from you that explains this.

Now I guess you don't have an answer or we would have been treated to a page of unreadable "research" that defends your claim.

But I have ample patience and am resolved to seeing you answer this if you can. (Let me goad you a bit ... which you can't and wont because you don't know what you are talking about)

Jason
Where did you get this sillyness did you think this up all by yourself , Or did you need help ...

[Xavier]

Where did you get this sillyness did you think this up all by yourself , Or did you need help ...
Funny... I was going to ask you the same question, Ez...

:lmbo:

[Ezraarah]

You seem to have him on that fine point, for sure. He didn't have as much research as you did! I guess you win.

But, here, in this posting, he makes an important observation. This observation is merely common sense. Why didvthese twelve men get into this with Jesus? Did he "make them" follow him? What did they first hear or understand that caused them to quit jobs and crafts? What was this first most elementary evangelium?

(See post before this)
I Gave You More Then Enough InFormation Showing The The Trinity Is Fake And Shown You How The Trinity Was Given To You By The Roman Catholic Church . Also How Your SoCalll Theologian / Scholar And The Authors Of Your Thousands Of Of Bible Are Debateing Over It .. Where It Should Have Never Been A Debate In The First Place . I Also Gave You Veses From The Bible Where Yashua Himself Tell You He Not God . But You So CaughtUp In Replaceing Yashua With His Father Your Not Going To Believe What You Own Bible Saying . OverStand SomeThing You People Are Alway Crying When You Can'T Get You Way Or When Your Ego Aren't Being Rub . Then You Go Out To Attack The One Who Don't Believe In You SillyNess As If You The Only One That Has The Truth . And All Other Who Doesn't Addhere To You Belief Are The Devil Etc. Well I'm Here To Tell You I'm Not Lock In This Yashua Thing I CareLess What You Believe And Accept OverStand ??? Now Anyone Who Can See That Yashua Is ONLY The Son Of God , When He Says He The Way To His Father / God , And SOME Of You Call Him The Father . My LAST Question On This Subject Is Where Is Yashua Takeing You ??????? DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Unlike Most You I Will Never Speak On AnyThing I Can't Backup With FACTS . Notice I Said Facts No Belif . If I Don't Know SomeThing I'm Not A Shame To Tell You I'll Get Back To You With The Answer . ... The Problem With People Like YourSelf You Think You Can Bully People In Accepting SomeThing Thats False Just Believe You Believe . You Should Be Able To Tell By My Threads I'm Not About The Bully Games .

[Andrew]

"The Second Testament ( which is referred to as The New Testament ) was compiled in 325 A.D. by the Council of Nicaea , and consisted of 27 books."

You should read about how the early Church Fathers used the various writings that comprise the NT. Certainly there wasn't any contention about twenty of the twenty-seven books much earlier than the Council of Nicea. For example, Titian wrote his Diatessaron around 150 AD which is a harmony of all four gospels which clearly indicates that all four gospels were considered authoritative at that time otherwise he wouldn't have dared to weave them into a single account. Get your nose into some scholarly literature like Metzger, B, The Canon of the New Testament.

I might pop my head in here every now and then to go through your post systematically but, as everyone else has commented, your posts are very hard to read.