Did the Torah Require Complete Adherence/Fidelity?

[Cherith]

"Know therefore that The LORD thy God, He is God, The Faithful God,
which keeps covenant and mercy with them that love Him and keep His commandments
to a thousand generations; {10} And repayeth them that hate Him
to their face, to destroy them:
He will not be slack to him that hateth Him, He will repay him to his face.
{11} Thou shalt therefore keep the commandments, and the statutes, and the judgments,
which I command thee this day, to do them." --Deu 7:9-11

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--Deu 27:1 "And Moses with the elders of Israel commanded the people, saying, Keep ALL The Commandments which I command you this day."

--Deu 27:26 "CURSED be he that confirmeth not ALL the words of this Law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen."

--Deu 28:15 "But it shall come to pass, IF thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do ALL His Commandments and His Statutes which I command thee this day; THEN ALL these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:"

--Deu 28:58-59 "If thou wilt not observe to do ALL the words of this Law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD; {59} THEN The LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance."

--Deu 29:29 "The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do ALL the words of this Law."

--Deu 30:10 "IF thou shalt hearken unto The Voice of The LORD thy God, to keep His Commandments and His Statutes which are written in this Book of The Law, and IF thou turn unto The LORD thy God with ALL thine heart, and with ALL thy soul."

--Deu 31:12 "Gather the people together, men, and women, and children, and thy stranger that is within thy gates, that they may hear, and that they may learn, and fear The LORD your God, and observe to do ALL the words of this Law:"

--Deu 32:46-47 "And he said unto them, Set your hearts unto ALL the words which I testify among you this day, which ye shall command your children to observe to do, ALL the words of this Law. {47} For it is not a vain thing for you; because it is your life: and through this thing ye shall prolong your days in the land, whither ye go over Jordan to possess it."

[Menachem]

Well Cherith the big question is why this question. As it is impossible for a single Jew to do everything in the Torah as commanded. For Example, Only Levites could do Levitical funtions, The Kohenim are the only ones who could offer sacrifices in the Temple, The High Priest was the only one allowed to enter the Kedosh Ha Kedoshim(Holy Of Holies), And only a Woman could do the precepts laid down for a Woman's Niddah(period). How am I, a man, to do the mitzvot for a woman's niddah.

How am I a Jew to do Levitical function as I am not a member of the tribe of Levi, How am I a Jew to do the functions of the Kohenim as I am not a Kohen. Not all of the mitzvot apply at all times nor do all of them apply to every Jew in the world...

my 2 cents.......

[Cherith]

Would it my considered impolite if I said "Well, duh!"? :duh:

[Menachem]

Would it my considered impolite if I said "Well, duh!"? :duh:

No, it wouldnt be impolite.

But it sort of negates the claim that the Torah requires every Jew to do all of the mitzvot in the Torah.

[Cherith]

Of course, the Lord/the Law didn't expect anyone to keep those aspects that pertained to specific people or areas, that's what I meant by "duh," :duh: but that doesn't excuse someone from all the other commandments. Aren't Jews expected to keep 613 commands or something like that?

--C

[Menachem]

Of course, the Lord/the Law didn't expect anyone to keep those aspects that pertained to specific people or areas, that's what I meant by "duh," :duh: but that doesn't excuse someone from all the other commandments. Aren't Jews expected to keep 613 commands or something like that?

--C


We can't keep all 613 as the ones I mentioned are included in the package of 613. But as for the ones we can do, we do.

Karates are much different they dont hold the Torah Sheh Be'al Peh(Oral Torah) to get 613 mitzvot. Yoshiah would probably be able to explain the mitzvot for Karates much better than I could.

All I am saying is that not all Mitzvot are binding all of the time and sometimes you are in conflict with mitzvot as in the scenario "Do I keep this Mitzvah while in the process I break this one." I have come across a few of those and I Usually choose the lesser of two evils.

[Timothy Leary]

The main differences are :

We don't don Tefillin
We don't have a problem with eating milk (or products derived from milk) unless the milk-derived product unless the products come from an animal and it's son/daughter
We observe the Holy Days according to the Sighting of the New Moon
And our new year begins with the Abib

[Goose]

Eli,

So, I DON'T have to keep the law of niydah?! And here, all these months.... :blush:

Seriously, though. I find it funny that Christians will say J-sus kept all 613 mitzvot, when it's obvious he couldn't possibly. It shows what little Christians know about Judaism and even the man they claim.