the hunt for Arminian's identity

[Gavin]

This is a thread designed to compile info regarding Jake's identity. Some useful info as surfaced here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=71636#post71636) (props to Zag), and Solly has also done some research in the past.

Any info, throw it out.

[Gavin]

For the record, Jake won't reveal his identity but says he does not mind speculation regarding it.

[GrayPilgrim]

Well he's at Wheaton and a formerly went to Trinity, so maybe look at the Wheaton site for TEDS grads.

[Gavin]

how do you know those two factoids?

[GrayPilgrim]

I knew he went to TEDS b/c he told me this last Spring when I first went to another site. At that point he lived in the Milluakee area, but Jaltus told me he moved. I may have been wrong about being "at" Wheaton, but he does live there.

GP

[Gavin]

ah thanks GP :thumb:

[Gavin]

never mind I think I found out who he is.

[joelkaki]

If you tell, I;ll:bow:


Joel

[dizzle]

Everyone watch out for GP. I am beginning to suspect he is an information bot. He can cough off these facts casually mentioned from ages ago. Be very afraid. Don't ask him the question "What do you know about me?" Something like this might happen:

Name: Dee Dee.
Age: .
Birthday: .
Gender: she.
Job: .
Sign: .
Location: xyboom's very large head.
Does: TEACH you how to annoy yxboom.
You are: .
You have: lot more to say about how large it is.
You want: .
You like: beef jerky.
You said: .
Personality: average.
Favorite color: .
Favorite movie: .
Password: .
Email: .
Phone: .
Cat: .
Dog: .
Wife: .
Husband: .
Friend: .
Boyfriend: .
Girlfriend: .
Brother: .
Sister: .
Father: .
Mother: .
Nickname: .
Full name: .
Last name: .
Middle name: .

[Gavin]

hmmm that reminds me of someone else . . . .

[Sher]

Rumor: JP is Mononoke. :tongue:

[joelkaki]

C'mon Gavin, spill it. :smile:


Joel

[yxboom]

Let's be careful in regards to Campus Decorum "Participant Anonymity" (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/show.php?pg=decorum#participant%20anonymity)

Unless there is express permission given by Arminian as to disclosing his identity beyond just speculation, approach this with caution.

[joelkaki]

OK.

Joel

[Solly]

The other facts are that he can translate German, and has a German wife. I thought it was Scot Hafemann, but he is Calvinist. There are others at Wheaton, but they are not "names" to me, so I couldn't say.

[GrayPilgrim]

Ich denke daß ich seine Identität gefunden habe! Solly you gave me the two pieces of the puzzle that allowed me to put it together

[dizzle]

Egad GP is posting in tongues!!!

[GrayPilgrim]

Only ones that use the Roman alphabet!

[Solly]

GP, was haben Sie in der quest gefindet?

[nomad]

hey, you used an esset, that's not roman :) you are hereby disqualified and must pay reparations of 5 cedillas and a circimflex.

'in der quest'

haha :)

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[Solly]

Nomad, ich spreche nicht much gut Deutsch; ich bin ein Englander, und macht nicht much Deutsch in dem schüle.

[GrayPilgrim]

Solly,

Here are the facts I used


Arminian went to TEDS (my alma mater and where I start work on my PhD next month
He lives in Wheaton, IL
He speaks German


So I went to Wheaton's site and looked and saw this:

There is a professor at Wheaton's Graduate school who taught at a seminary in Germany...

I will give a hint, think of 1960's era TV, the show was produced by Bing Crosby and hte star was murdered after only a few seasons. There was a particular guy on the show who owuld often say
I know nossing, I see nossing...


GP

[Solly]

Today @ 03:15 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=85135#post85135)
GrayPilgrim:

Solly,

Here are the facts I used


Arminian went to TEDS (my alma mater and where I start work on my PhD next month
He lives in Wheaton, IL
He speaks German


So I went to Wheaton's site and looked and saw this:

There is a professor at Wheaton's Graduate school who taught at a seminary in Germany...

I will give a hint, think of 1960's era TV, the show was produced by Bing Crosby and hte star was murdered after only a few seasons. There was a particular guy on the show who owuld often say



GP

Is Illinois on EST. His time zone is set for that.

I'm not American remember, I don't know these things about your TV.











AND I'M NOT THAT OLD!!

[GrayPilgrim]

IL is in CST, which is a noodler, but he gave me the Wheaton info and he used to be Miluakee, WI, which is also CST.

I know you wouldn't know the TV but that is for others who come along later. I am not that old either it was just on in reruns for a long time (in fact still is).

[Solly]

But this guy is into OT. Why is Arminian doing a thread on Ephesians soon, and knows Greek. I haven't seen him comment on Hebrew.

My bad, he is on CST. I was trying to work it out this am when times in the US were around 3 am.

[GrayPilgrim]

That is the one problem I've had with him too.

[Solly]

Perhaps he's a TEDS bot. Walt Elwell for the age, Doug Moo for the NT, and Scot Hafemann for the German. It's a cunning ploy on their part to see if they can create an Arminian professor who doesn't dissolve into a logical breakdown when arguing his case.

[nomad]

ich habe durch fünf Jahre im Hochschule Deutsch gelernt, aber ich habe die Meisten vergessen (es war vor elf Jahre)...

i took german for 5 years in high school, but have forgotten just about all of it...

i was just joking, hope that was obvious...

Jiveman2: Knock yourself a pro slick. Gray matter back got perform' us' down I take TCBin, man'.
Subtitle: DON'T BE NAIVE ARTHUR. EACH OF US FACES A CLEAR MORAL CHOICE.

[Sher]

Silly, silly people ... I figured this out ages ago ... He's ...














:shifty:











... SpongeBob SquarePants! http://www.spongebobsquarepants.net/_borders/spongebob.gif

[AVmetro]

:eek:

[Solly]

I'd be glad to show you why. I'll post after I get home so that I can look at the text.
http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=108569#post108569
That's easy. I wanted to look at the Greek to make sure I'm giving the truest sense of the text. Since I didn't have the Greek in front of me, I wanted to wait. Right now I'm cross-referencing "mystery," and when I'm done I'll finish making some changes on a blueprint before I send it back to my architect. Then I'll reply to Jaltus in the Biblical Theology folder, eat the Cajun chicken that is reheating in the microwave, go to bed, and wake up in 3 hours. After that I'll go to work, and while at work I'll post if I get time, after mulling over the thought of also talking about Paul's use of the Pentateuch (which I'm almost certain I won't do). If I don't have time to post it while at work, I'll come back to tease you some more, anyhow.

http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=108714#post108714

Ok, let's kick this off again:

If Arminian is, as we assume, faculty at Wheaton, then why doesn't he have a Greek text to hand? I have eSword and the IVP Reference Library CD on my PC, plus hard copies to hand of texts and a concordance, and I am at work.
So, either Arminian doesn't work at Wheaton, but instead is the manager of the local McDonald's, or he is not a very good tutor.


Or something else, of course.


/ot GP: Avatar robbery noted.

[Solly]

Further thoughts: he doesn't like Systematic theology, but rather favours Biblical Theology, he keeps mentioning Richard B Hays, and likes M. Jay Wells - and who is s/he? Nothing comes up on a web search; no institution is mentioned against their name.

And something else: we assume he is a NT scholar, cos that's all he talks about; but he is now mentioning Paul's use of the Penteteuch in his writings, so perhaps he is OT after all.

more snippets:
Many of my close relatives live in Asia.
http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=98218#post98218
North Park Symposium on the Theological Interpretation of Scripture
http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=71814#post71814

[Sheepdog]

i think he likes spongebob. i don't know for a fact though.

[Solly]

Today @ 10:22 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=120046#post120046)
Sheepdog:

i think he likes spongebob. i don't know for a fact though.

Brilliant!! Well spotted that man; this could be the clue we are looking for.


Church of spongebob (http://www.churchofspongebob.org/index.htm)
Are you in a joyless, faithless void?

Have you rummaged through the spiritual offerings of a planet that is so morally bankrupt, little seems good? Honest? Reliable?

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You may be like Squidward.

Are you ready for something new and better? Something honest, earnest and fun? Something that can make you feel good without making you feel bad?

Perhaps you have never considered going underwater to find a belief system worth investing in...you probably never, in your wildest dreams, thought that the secrets to living a happy, contented and fulfilling life could come from a tiny animated sponge.

Well, we're The Church of SpongeBob Squarepants and we bring to you, today, Good News!

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A Church that presents it's precepts and spiritual instruction in an easily accessible format.
A Church you can enjoy in your own home - no special building to go to.
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/ot Shakes head at the coming decline of American civilisation

[Sher]

Today @ 03:57 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=120017#post120017)
Solly:

Further thoughts: he doesn't like Systematic theology, but rather favours Biblical Theology, he keeps mentioning Richard B Hays, and likes M. Jay Wells - and who is s/he? Nothing comes up on a web search; no institution is mentioned against their name.

M. Jay Wells seems to have had part in "Biblical Theology: Retrospect & Prospect -- Scott J. Hafemann (ed)"

"Gerald H. Wilson (Asuza Pacific) and M. Jay Wells chart the current state of Old Testament questions"
http://www.gospelcom.net/cgi-ivpress/book.pl/code=2684

"Figural Representation and Canonical Unity--M. Jay Wells"
http://www.gospelcom.net/cgi-ivpress/book.pl/toc/code=2684

"M. Jay Wells is an independent scholar in Loma, Colorado."
http://www.gospelcom.net/ivpress/title/exc/2684-C.pdf

:teeth: (Dogpile -- Unleash the power of meta-search)

Hope this helps a bit
Sher, seeker :bunny:

[Solly]

Thanks sher; that seems to be the only mention of Wells on the web (AltaVista brought up three links all about the book).
I am beginning to suspect that Arminian might be a lone star himself, since no one on the Wheaton faculty quite fits the bill. Any other institutions in the area?

And I take his denunciation of having a beard and not being old with a pinch of salt, since they were made in the same breath as denying who Richard B Hays is.

Facts so far:

Favours BT; doesn't like ST
Favours the New Perspective
Arminian; was a Calvinist. (no true Calvinist fallacy springs to mind however)
NT oriented; knows Greek like a geek
Knows German
Was at TEDS
Knows faculty members at Wheaton
Lives in the CST zone, and within hailing distance of Wheaton
North Park Symposium on the Theological Interpretation of Scripture was a clue he gave, along with Faithand Philosophy.com
http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/sh...71814#post71814

[Sher]

and Richard B. Hayes is Professor of New Testament at the Divinity School, Duke University

and an author of two books:

http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft9606/hays.html
http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft9405/revessay.html


Or Solly can simply edit his post and make me look like an idiot for posting info he already knows :lol:

[Solly]

:rofl: Gotta be quick to catch me

Breaking News

Found at the other location: he attends a North American Baptist Church (that's a denomination; started by a swiss man who became baptist) cos they speak German.

Here's one in illinois

[Arminian]

I hear he hates Hays. (Btw, I didn't know this thread existed. Perhaps someone told me and I forgot?)

[Jaltus]

Well, I have a guess, but I am sure it is wrong. I'll keep working at this also.

[Arminian]

Here's another hint. There is at least one student (and, I believe, one of his dispie profs) reading these forums to study my perspective. I have asked them to pretend they don't know me.

Perhaps you can offer a reward for information. Also, I'm generally not known to be an Arminian by those who know me, since that specific topic doesn't come up much.

[$cirisme]

I have asked them to pretend they don't know me.

Why? Are they some sort of losers?

:brow:

[Gavin]

Favours BT; doesn't like ST
Favours the New Perspective
Arminian; was a Calvinist. (no true Calvinist fallacy springs to mind however)
NT oriented; knows Greek like a geek
Knows German
Was at TEDS
Knows faculty members at Wheaton
Lives in the CST zone, and within hailing distance of Wheaton
North Park Symposium on the Theological Interpretation of Scripture was a clue he gave, along with Faithand Philosophy.com
http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/sh...71814#post71814

I still think Klyne fits everything here. The two biggest connections, though, are that Klyne has written a commentary on Ephesians (which book Arminian knows well), and he heads the "North Park Symposium on the Theological Interpretation of Scripture" (which was a clue Arminian gave).

His bio says that Snodgrass "serves as coordinator of the North Park Symposium on the Theological Interpretation of Scripture". See http://www.northpark.edu/sem/academics/faculty/ksnodgr.html

All the other things (like going to TEDS) line up as well.

I may be wrong, but I am definitely sticking with Klyne as my official guess.

gavin :huh:

[Gavin]

One more thing: North Park is in the Wheaton area.

[Sher]

Today @ 05:41 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=120574#post120574)
Arminian:

Here's another hint. There is at least one student (and, I believe, one of his dispie profs) reading these forums to study my perspective. I have asked them to pretend they don't know me.

Perhaps you can offer a reward for information. Also, I'm generally not known to be an Arminian by those who know me, since that specific topic doesn't come up much.

:deal: :brow:

PM me to work out the details :teeth:

(wh00t ... post #2500!)

[Em7add11]

I think Arminian is Calvinist in disguise. (Has somebody already made that joke?)

[Sher]

Today @ 05:55 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=120598#post120598)
Em7add11:

I think Arminian is Calvinist in disguise. (Has somebody already made that joke?)

I don't know ... but :lol:

[Em7add11]

I was too lazy to read the other two pages, so I wasn't sure.

[Yog^sothoth]

I think Arminian is in fact, Manuel Norriega.

He has to be!

Come on! you know it's true:rofl:

[Jaltus]

The real question is this:

Will Arminian help me get a job when I graduate?

[Arminian]

Will Arminian help me get a job when I graduate?

If you can get me a job first.

I think Arminian is in fact, Manuel Norriega.

I think he's old enough to be my father.

[geebob]

I still think Klyne fits everything here. The two biggest connections, though, are that Klyne has written a commentary on Ephesians (which book Arminian knows well), and he heads the "North Park Symposium on the Theological Interpretation of Scripture" (which was a clue Arminian gave).

Who's klyne? William Klyne? if so, I know arminian said he'd give his book on corporate election a -D although he's recomended it.

[Arminian]

William Klyne

I think you mean Klein.

[Gavin]

geebob,

Who's klyne?

Klyne Snodgrass, a professor at North Park Theological Seminary in Chicago.

See here: http://www.northpark.edu/sem/academics/faculty/ksnodgr.html

[Arminian]

He must be 20 years older than me. I hate it when they use old pictures.

[Gavin]

The only things that make me doubt that Jake is Klyne:

1) his age. If so, he must have graduated from TEDS before 1973, which is before Carson and Grudem started teaching at TEDS (I think), and Jake has referred to those two as his teachers.

2) Jake's response to my suggestion that it is Klyne. But he may just be trying to throw me off.

Jake's hints are so untrustworthy. The "North Park Symposium on the Theological Interpretation of Scripture" was definitely misleading.

[Arminian]

Even Pinnock was gone long before I started. The first time I met him was at church when I was about 11 or 12. He was still wearing those nasty horn-rimmed glasses. I thought to myself, "So that's what an Armnian looks like!"

Then I grew up, and now I really do look like that. :shrug:

[yxboom]

:lol:

[Jaltus]

Jake never said he graduated from TEDS, he said he went there. I believe his degree is in fact from somewhere else.

[Solly]

Having gone through my IVP Dictionaries, here are some names, and where they were at a certain time. Arminian might be one of them

Frederick Danker, Lutheran Schoole of theology, Illinois, 92
Gerald Hawthorne, Wheaton, 92
John Levison, North Parl, Ill, 92
David Scholer, North Park, Ill 92
Julius Scott, Wheaton, 92
Warren heard, TEDS 92
Douglas Huffman, TEDS 92
Walter Liefield, TEDS 92
Grant osborne, TEDS 92
David Aune, loyola, Illinois, 93
W Bingham Hunter, TEDS 93
Eckhard Schabel TEDS 2000

[Gavin]

Jake never said he graduated from TEDS, he said he went there. I believe his degree is in fact from somewhere else.

Either way Snodgrass' age almost certainly eliminates him, since Snodgrass started teaching (after his doctoral work) in 1973. How could I overlook this?

Jake, throw more bones.

[Jaltus]

I can eliminate:

Frederick Danker, Lutheran Schoole of theology, Illinois, 92
Walter Liefield, TEDS 92
Grant osborne, TEDS 92
David Aune, loyola, Illinois, 93
W Bingham Hunter, TEDS 93
Eckhard Schabel TEDS 2000

Danker is older than the hills, as is Osborne, and Hunter.

He does not write like Liefeld (who I think is old also) nor like Aune.

Schnabel is going to be first reader on my dissertation and is actually from Germany, he never went to TEDS as a student.

[Em7add11]

Wow, such substance in this thread. I feel dizzy. :hrm:

[Sher]

:joy: bump ...

Let's make a deal :deal:

:brow:

I won't squeal :nc:

[Solly]

Frederick Danker
Gerald Hawthorne, Wheaton, 92
John Levison, North Parl, Ill, 92
David Scholer, North Park, Ill 92
Julius Scott, Wheaton, 92
Warren heard, TEDS 92
Douglas Huffman, TEDS 92
Walter Liefield, TEDS 92
Grant osborne, TEDS 92
David Aune, loyola, Illinois, 93
W Bingham Hunter, TEDS 93
Eckhard Schabel TEDS 2000

I know we can assume nothing in regard to Arminian's identity, but I am prone to suspect that he is young[er] rather than old[er] by the fact that he owns a XBox.

[geebob]

I know we can assume nothing in regard to Arminian's identity, but I am prone to suspect that he is young[er] rather than old[er] by the fact that he owns a XBox.

I would think he's somewhere from the 30's to the 40's but I've always thought of him as in his 40's.

I think he once mentioned that he'd been a calvinist for give or take 20 years befor becoming an arminian.

The xbox thing would shift the likelyhood of him being younger, but I would like to point out that I took a girl to prom who's grandmother was an avid pac man player. I was told the family would occasionally call her up and she'd tell them "not now, I'm playing pac man."

Another thing to consider, I consider it very possible that whether or not arminian is an accomplished or well known scholar, he may not be a teacher. I've heard him mention that he has taught sunday school, but he's never given any indication that he teaches in higher education. I've seen him make only one refference to his students and he was speaking of other members of an online forum.

[Solly]

Yes, I was coming to that conclusion too; I think this faculty thing might be a red herring based on his knowledge of theology and name dropping - he certainly knows people; but then he could be a minister in the illinois area. I still go for the McDonald's manager who can't keep a greek text in his office in case Homeland Security think its the Koran.

However, he has published articles at least. When asked who his favourite authors are (at TOL) he said Hays, Wright - I think, and himself.

[geebob]

well even without a class, he could be associated with a university (I think William Lane Craig had or still has something like this going on)

[Sher]

Today @ 06:26 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=121918#post121918)
Solly:

but I am prone to suspect that he is young[er] rather than old[er] by the fact that he owns a XBox.


:whack:

[$cirisme]

I know we can assume nothing in regard to Arminian's identity, but I am prone to suspect that he is young[er] rather than old[er] by the fact that he owns a XBox.

Blasphemey. :whack: M$ is evil. :whack: Get a playstaion :whack: or gamecube. :whack:

[Arminian]

I would think he's somewhere from the 30's to the 40's but I've always thought of him as in his 40's.

30's.

I think he once mentioned that he'd been a calvinist for give or take 20 years befor becoming an arminian.

Give.

The xbox thing would shift the likelyhood of him being younger, but I would like to point out that I took a girl to prom who's grandmother was an avid pac man player. I was told the family would occasionally call her up and she'd tell them "not now, I'm playing pac man."

My excuse is that I have kids. The truth is that I'm not very mature.

On the other hand, Grant O. loves rollercoasters, and Piper watches Veggie Tales over and over (or, at least he used to).

I am not a minister. Or, maybe I am a minister and I'm not very honest about it or I'm not aware of it. :huh:

[Solly]

On a faculty anywhere? Do we need to start hunting down Novum Test back issues?

[Em7add11]

Gamecubes are an egregious evil.

[$cirisme]

Or, maybe I am a minister and I'm not very honest about it

If that's the case, you're not a very good minister.

:brow:

[Arminian]

There is a false prophet among us:

Gamecubes are an egregious evil.

[Zagnut]

You guys can't see the forest for the trees. Have you ever noticed that Jake often comments on books before they are released to the general public? How is it that he talks often to authors BEFORE their books are released?! Is he an editor? A publiser? He had Wright's latest book a full month before it was released to the general public. Why was he talking to Pinnock about a systematic theology that hasn't been published yet?

[Arminian]

Whatever I do, I hope I get paid a LOT!!!

[geebob]

You guys can't see the forest for the trees.

well, we don't have the benefit of his aol activities so we're quite limited on arminian lore. But now that your here, Mwa ha ha!

However, alot of the scholars hand their works around to other scholars to get feedback for possible improvement.

[Sher]

Yesterday @ 04:35 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=122346#post122346)
Arminian:

My excuse is that I have kids. The truth is that I'm not very mature.

How many kids Jake? :brow:

[Arminian]

How many kids Jake?

What do you think I am!!!!!? A mathematician?????? :dufus:

[geebob]

Whatever I do, I hope I get paid a LOT!!!

Well if it's up to us, then I will say that you are a rich philanthropist publisher who's going to donate tons of money to TWEB so that we can give the moderators and admin's full time pay and secondly, you'll publish a collection of writings by the Early Church Father's on the topic of free will.

:deal: :cheers: :yipee:

[Arminian]

Well if it's up to us, then I will say that you are a rich philanthropist publisher who's going to donate tons of money to TWEB so that we can give the moderators and admin's full time pay and secondly, you'll publish a collection of writings by the Early Church Father's on the topic of free will.

Let me think about it.....

[Arminian]

OK, I'm done thinking.

The answer is NO!

[Sher]

:lol:

[geebob]

Oo! Oooo! I have a new theory.

Arminian must have a lot of kids as he's said this to the question of how many kids he's had:

What do you think I am!!!!!? A mathematician??????


So if it's that many, he must have like 80 kids or something. And that's just too many kids for one wife to have.

I would recomend looking into muslims and mormons who've been through TEDS or Wheaton.


Well Arminian, we've got your number. I think it's safe to say that it is only a matter of days till the jig is up.

[Sher]

Today @ 07:25 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=123988#post123988)
geebob:

So if it's that many, he must have like 80 kids or something. And that's just too many kids for one wife to have.

:rofl:

I think I am |-| this close ... but I am definitely missing a piece of the puzzle.

[Arminian]

Sher,

I think I am |-| this close ... but I am definitely missing a piece of the puzzle.

The amazing thing is that the fellow you guessed about has an amazing number of family similarities to mine. The problem is that he's about 10 years older. His wife is Sweedish.

[Sher]

:argh:

(It wasn't the other on the same page as my last guess, was it?)

Sher, feeling pretty stoopid :dufus:

[Arminian]

(It wasn't the other on the same page as my last guess, was it?)

Millard Erickson? No, he's older than dirt. But is is a friend of a relative of mine that used to teach at the same school as him and Boyd.

Mel-vin and the Chipmunks? (I refuse to answer)

(sorry, I edited instead of quoting ... but I fixed your spelling now :teeth: ~Sher)

[Sher]

Yesterday @ 11:08 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=124071#post124071)
Arminian:



Millard Erickson? No, he's older than dirt. But is is a friend of a relative of mine that used to teach at the same school as him and Boyd.

Mel-vin and the Chipmunks? (I refuse to answer)



Alvin, Simon, Theo-dore ...

:teeth:

(laughs at how this is going to mess everyone else up)

(Muwahaha)

Sher :wink:

(I hate it when I press the wrong button!)

[Arminian]

(I hate it when I press the wrong button!)

I hate it when you neglect to correct my spelling.

[Sher]

:lol:

[Gavin]

I am going to give this hunt a rest and let Solly do most of the work for a while.

[Arminian]

Oh, and just for the record, I am a certified CCNP. I do nothing with routers or computers, however. Someone just dared me to try.

[Em7add11]

Today @ 04:52 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=124742#post124742)
Arminian:

Oh, and just for the record, I am a certified CCNP. I do nothing with routers or computers, however. Someone just dared me to try.

Ahh man, I'm working on my CCNA right now. You did it just for fun?!?!

:rant:

[Arminian]

Em,

CCNA

I remember well.......

Don't neglect the ISDN.

[Em7add11]

I've heard that from several people...does anybody actually use ISDN anymore? :huh:

[Arminian]

E,

I've heard that from several people...does anybody actually use ISDN anymore?

Yes, as a backup. For example, if a bank's framerelay link goes down, it can use ISDN over the 56/ 64k line, assuming that the problem isn't at the same CO, T1, T2, T3 as the frame relay

[Em7add11]

*sigh*

Looks like it's time to go back and study some more.

[Sher]

Okay Solly-bot,

What do you know about Arminian?

[Arminian]

Okay Solly-bot,

What do you know about Arminian?

This reminds me.....European ISDN is a whole other world. :read:

[Em7add11]

:poke:

[Solly]

I used to work for Siemens Communications, purveyors of ISDN to the unsuspecting

[Arminian]

LOL! :rofl:

[Solly]

Ah shucks, he's not Michael Cranford - New perspective, Hays, IT, articles in NTS. Just happens to live in California though.
Back to the AltaVista drawing board.

[Gavin]

Jake, your latest sig . . . Packer . . . ?

No one really guessed that did they?

[geebob]

I think I inspired that. I asked him if he'd use the name of an author in his sig that he wouldn't recomend.

[Gavin]

Wow so Jake is not a Packer fan. That could be a useful fact as most are. :hrm:

[Arminian]

Did I tell you that I did important research on the Generation Effect in the early 90's?

[Sher]

:argh:

[Jaltus]

I think he is Doug Moo pretending to be someone else.

[Bill the Cat]

If he is, could he please answer the email I sent him 2 weeks ago?

[Arminian]

I think he is Doug Moo pretending to be someone else.

He's way too tall. But I do look like him from the back.

Or perhaps I am Moo and I don't know it or am tying to hide it. :huh:

Besides, have you ever seen Moo in casual dress without a polo shirt? I think not!!!

(Interestingly, Moo did help plan a library at a certian church that Sher is interesed in.....)

[Arminian]

he is, could he please answer the email I sent him 2 weeks ago?

I'm sorry, I guess I didn't see it. I get so much garbage that I delete everything I receive under that address. An SBC pastor signed me up for junk mail a few years ago because he didn't like me. (:Sob:) Send me a PM and I'll reply.

[Sher]

Today @ 06:37 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=126971#post126971)
Arminian:


He's way too tall. But I do look like him from the back.

Or perhaps I am Moo and I don't know it or am tying to hide it. :huh:

Besides, have you ever seen Moo in casual dress without a polo shirt? I think not!!!

(Interestingly, Moo did help plan a library at a certian church that Sher is interesed in.....)

/me laughs hysterically ... and goes back to blubbering in the corner

[Sher]

Today @ 06:39 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=126974#post126974)
Arminian:

I'm sorry, I guess I didn't see it. I get so much garbage that I delete everything I receive under that address. An SBC pastor signed me up for junk mail a few years ago because he didn't like me. (:Sob:) Send me a PM and I'll reply.

<== :lol:

[Jaltus]

I saw Carson in shorts two summers ago. Never saw Moo in anything but khakis and tie.

[Arminian]

I saw Carson in shorts two summers ago.
:eek:

[GrayPilgrim]

My only class experiences with both Moo and Carson soured my thinking on them.

On our way to German class this morning Jaltus and I started wondering could there be a connection with Crossway books, and on another note could his previous location in the Milluakee area indicate that he might have done his disertation at Marquette?

[Arminian]

Did I mention that I was once on a Pee Wee baseball team that got 2nd place?

[yxboom]

I am going to predict that next week his signature is going to say "White" or "Hasker"

[Arminian]

Sher's theory was that I am this guy:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0310248108/qid=1055990565/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-1511853-6647841

[Arminian]

Never saw Moo in anything but khakis and tie.

I'm not even going to ask why he wasn't wearing a shirt. :eek:

[Sher]

Yesterday @ 10:49 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=127268#post127268)
Arminian:

Sher's theory was that I am this guy:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0310248108/qid=1055990565/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-1511853-6647841

Hey ... you told :poke:

[Gavin]

That would be absolutely hilarious if he was Doug Moo.

[Jaltus]

At least he is not Morris. For some reason his writing sets my teeth on edge.

[Sher]

My next guess? Rumpelstiltskin!

http://www.mresource.com/Fiber/TeakPhilp.jpg

[Arminian]

That would be absolutely hilarious if he was Doug Moo.

Well, now that I've learned that GrayPilgrim doesn't care for him much, I don't want to be him (me?).

[GrayPilgrim]

[rant]It is more his teaching style or lack thereof that annoyed me. I had a class that he team taught. On Tuesdays people would meet in one of four different exegesis sections (Jaltus and I had Schanbel for that) then on Thursday half of the group would meet with Moo and a homiletics prof and another group with Osborne and another homiletics prof. In Moo's Tuesday sectuion he gave special directions for a paper that were not given to those of us outside of that class, so when 3/4 of us turned in the paper w/o this "secret knowledge" we were graded down, when this inequity was pointed out he protested that he had told us all, when even the other prof said he had not. So that soured me to his teaching. [rant]

Besides Cranfield's commentary on Romans is much better. :read:

[Arminian]

Gray,

In Moo's Tuesday sectuion he gave special directions for a paper that were not given to those of us outside of that class, so when 3/4 of us turned in the paper w/o this "secret knowledge" we were graded down, when this inequity was pointed out he protested that he had told us all, when even the other prof said he had not. So that soured me to his teaching.

I did tell you. I clearly remember that. :lol:


Besides Cranfield's commentary on Romans is much better.

Except for the mistakes, which I can point out to you FaCP (from a Calvinist perspective).

[Jaltus]

The real question is not "who is Arminian."

The real question is "will he be a good third reader for my dissertation on Paul's Theology Proper from Romans?"

For that matter, a good follow up would be, "does he know of any good jobs for an NT prof starting in 2005 or so?"

[Arminian]

The real question is "will he be a good third reader for my dissertation on Paul's Theology Proper from Romans?"

I'd be glad to read it. However, you might want to wait until I post some material in the BT folder to see if you even want to give me the time of day, first.

My thesis: One must first understand the Pentatuch to understand Paul. I will have some negative things to say concerning Hays (not too much, because I don't want to make him angry). As always, the issue is "The Israel of God."

For that matter, a good follow up would be, "does he know of any good jobs for an NT prof starting in 2005 or so?"

I don't know of any at the moment. But my postion may be open if Gray's accusations "stick."

"Good" is relative, however. I heard a rumor about Asbury, but I can't comfirm it.

[Zagnut]

Asbury

And now the clues come full circle. The Faith and Philosophy Journal is edited out of Wheaton and managed out of Asbury.

[GrayPilgrim]

Arminian--

I piccked up two Hays books this week (1 Cor and The Moral Vision of the NT)

[Arminian]

I piccked up two Hays books this week (1 Cor and The Moral Vision of the NT)

Cool! Did you actually buy them?? But if you really want something to think about, try The Faith of Jesus Christ: The Narrative Substructure of Galatians 3:1-4:11 . Your head will hurting while you try to make up your mind....... (It was his doctoral thesis.) Yahoo!!!!

You'll thank me later (trust me),

:argh:

[GrayPilgrim]

I bought them. The 1 Cor. is for an advanced exegesis class with Schnabel and the Moral Vision is for Vanhoozer's Theological Prolegomena class.

Can we know what years you were at TEDS?

[Arminian]

Required reading:

The Faith of Jesus Christ: The Narrative Substructure of Galatians 3:1-4:11

[GrayPilgrim]

Jaltus was his TA this last semester so you'll have to ask him.

[GrayPilgrim]

Hey, did you have the Revelation class with Carson right after he came back from a trip to Greece and Turkey? Moreover, was there a Dutchman in the class?

[Gavin]

I am corresponding with Snodgrass. I don't think he is Jake, but interestingly, he favors BA over SA and has disagreements with modern Calvinism. Remind you of anyone?

[Arminian]

I am corresponding with Snodgrass. I don't think he is Jake, but interestingly, he favors BA over SA and has disagreements with modern Calvinism. Remind you of anyone?

Sounds like he's merely NP (or perhaps another issue...).

I hope to post in the BT folder next week, if I EVER get the time.

[Jaltus]

Hey, did you ever read " The Attributes of God in Pauline Theology" by Bill Thrasher? I just ordered it. It was his Ph D diss from DTS in 2001. For one, it should give me a solid bibliography, for another, it is right up my alley.

Oh, I have decided you are currently going to be R Kent Hughes, since I am out of good guesses for the moment.

[GrayPilgrim]

Hmmm, could he be Feuerbach, Schleiermacher or Bultmann?

[Solly]

Roberto Mangobeira Unger? Jean Laman? Stephen Hawking?

[Solly]

Vicar of Dibley? Rev Jesse Jackson?

[Solly]

Oswald Chambers? R A Torrey? A W Tozer?

[GrayPilgrim]

Umberto Cassuto? Christo van der Merwe? N.T. Wright?

[Solly]

Clark Pillock? Simone Weil? Aram Keshishian?

[GrayPilgrim]

Marcus Jastrow? Alfred Edersheim?Richard Backham? Shimon Bar-Efrat?

[Solly]

Indira Ghandi? Madalyn Murray McHare? Ayn Rand?

[Solly]

Yves Congar? Adolf Schlatter? Henri Blocher?

[GrayPilgrim]

Hendrikus Berkhoff? Geerhardus Vos? Josephus?

[GrayPilgrim]

Eberhard Bethge? Rudolf Meyer?

[Sher]

:rofl:

[GrayPilgrim]

Robert Alter? Kevin Vanhoezer? Gordon Fee? Bernard Anderson?

[Solly]

Elizabeth Fiorenza? Elizabeth Moltmann? Sally McFague?

[Jaltus]

Adolf Schlatter? Herman Munster?

[GrayPilgrim]

George Lucas? Klaus Westermann? G. Johannes Botterweck?

[Arminian]

Hey, did you ever read " The Attributes of God in Pauline Theology" by Bill Thrasher? I just ordered it. It was his Ph D diss from DTS in 2001. For one, it should give me a solid bibliography, for another, it is right up my alley.

I can't say that I have. But the book seems very familiar for some reason. Perhaps I've got it and haven't read it, or I looked at it for some reason.

[Arminian]

I just noticed that Solly's avatar looks like Grant O. with a beard, when I try not to focus..

[Arminian]

Mel Gibson?

[John Reece]

Today @ 04:37 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=145152#post145152)
Arminian:

Mel Gibson?

:smile:

[GrayPilgrim]

Hey, it does!

07-09-2003 @ 08:36 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=145043#post145043)
Arminian:

I just noticed that Solly's avatar looks like Grant O. with a beard, when I try not to focus..

[Sher]

:bawl:

I give up :no: I just give up

:bawl:






:wink:

[Jaltus]

I think he plays for the Yankees.

[Arminian]

I think he plays for the Yankees.

One of my relatives used to play for the Dodgers.

[GrayPilgrim]

:buba: :gandalf: :bop: :mod:

[Jaltus]

I think he is actually just a sunday school teacher who is a retired coal miner pretending to be a famous prof who is "slumming" here at TWeb.

[Jaltus]

Alice Cooper.

[Arminian]

he is actually just a sunday school teacher who is a retired coal miner pretending to be a famous prof who is "slumming" here at TWeb.

This could very well be the case. I've never said what I do for a living, other than the fact that I'm not a minister.

[Sher]

Arminian:

This could very well be the case. I've never said what I do for a living, other than the fact that I'm not a minister.

What about a minister's son ... Junior? :eh:

[GrayPilgrim]

Ahh.. Have you guys not figrued it out yet..actually as one can see by his current signature, he works in additives (not preservatives) he lives in Chicago, and has had many famous holidays. THere was the trip to the now defunct Wallyworld, in which he held up the place with a BB gun, after punching a deranged moose inthe nose. Then he and the family went on the canceld game show, "Pig in a Poke" in which the won a trip to Europe, where, the lost their luggage, he was threatened with a hanging and all around good fun (They saw Big Ben and Parliment repeatedly but could never get out of that darned circle!)

And who shall forget when we all visted them for Christmas...you know where some how Rusty regressed in years and Audry got older than Rusty (most be those additives) they had such an amazing tree until Snots drank the water and his great uncle burnt it, and in this time Cousin Ed used the gun.


And who can fail to forget the trip to Las Vegas (I never saw how that one went). But as we see Clark is among us...unless his real last name was Pinnock and not Griswold

[Zagnut]

hmmm...i will have to think about that one.... :huh:

[Sher]

Today @ 12:17 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=154996#post154996)
GrayPilgrim:

:lmbo: :lmbo: :lmbo:

[Arminian]

Ahh.. Have you guys not figrued it out yet..actually as one can see by his current signature, he works in additives (not preservatives) he lives in Chicago, and has had many famous holidays. THere was the trip to the now defunct Wallyworld, in which he held up the place with a BB gun, after punching a deranged moose inthe nose. Then he and the family went on the canceld game show, "Pig in a Poke" in which the won a trip to Europe, where, the lost their luggage, he was threatened with a hanging and all around good fun (They saw Big Ben and Parliment repeatedly but could never get out of that darned circle!)

And who shall forget when we all visted them for Christmas...you know where some how Rusty regressed in years and Audry got older than Rusty (most be those additives) they had such an amazing tree until Snots drank the water and his great uncle burnt it, and in this time Cousin Ed used the gun.


And who can fail to forget the trip to Las Vegas (I never saw how that one went). But as we see Clark is among us...unless his real last name was Pinnock and not Griswold

I neither affirm nor deny any of this. :nc:

[Arminian]

Sher,

What about a minister's son ... Junior?

My dad was a pastor 17 years ago. Nows he's a missionary.

[Solly]

Is your Dad still a calvinist?

/ot starts searching for missionary prayer letters on the web...

[Arminian]

Is your Dad still a calvinist?

No. I'd call him an "eternal security Arminain."

[Arminian]

* Off topic: starts searching for missionary prayer letters on the web...

You won't find the letters of missionaries in Comminist countries on the Internet. At least, you won't find the letters of those missionaries if they want to remain missionaries in those countries.

[Bill the Cat]

Are you Sponge Bob?? :rofl:

[Zagnut]

Arminian, if you're not a professor somewhere then WHY ARW THERE SOME PEOPLE ON AOL THAT CLAIM TO HAVE BEEN YOUR STUDENTS???

they pracitly worshop you!!

[Solly]

Yesterday @ 08:51 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=155086#post155086)
Arminian:



You won't find the letters of missionaries in Comminist countries on the Internet. At least, you won't find the letters of those missionaries if they want to remain missionaries in those countries.

Yes, I knew that; you had already said you had family in Asia.
Good for them, and may the Lord bless them and keep them. :thumb:

[Arminian]

Zag,

Arminian, if you're not a professor somewhere then WHY ARW THERE SOME PEOPLE ON AOL THAT CLAIM TO HAVE BEEN YOUR STUDENTS???

Of all the people in the world, you're going to trust theology students!?!?!?!

they pracitly worshop you!!

That alone makes them highly suspect!! :eek:

[Arminian]

Solly,

Yes, I knew that; you had already said you had family in Asia.
Good for them, and may the Lord bless them and keep them.

That reminds me. I was trying to post and edit last night and TW wouldn't let me. I wanted to add that my mom is a 4-point Calvinist. :yipee:

[Arminian]

Bill,

Are you Sponge Bob??

Please, I hardly know you. Please call me Mr. Squarepants.

[Jaltus]

You know, your post count would be higher if you ever actually left a post up.

[Solly]

awk awk, Arminian is now DD. At last his real identity is known.

[GrayPilgrim]

So if DDW is an Arminain
and Arminian is an Arminian (I know this is tautology)

Then DDW is Arminian!

We have solved part of the problem, but then the next problem arises....If Arminian is Clark Griswold, does that mean DDW is really....


















































































Audry? :huh:

[Sher]

:huh:

Completely lost ....

:shersig:

[Jaltus]

Hold me!

I think I actually followed that and am having a nervous breakdown as a result.

[GrayPilgrim]

Audrey was the daughter in the Griswold family...

[Arminian]

You know, your post count would be higher if you ever actually left a post up.

I guess I could leave the posts up and change my screen name more often. :lol:

[Solly]

Hmmm, not Bob Hope then.

[Jaltus]

I think he is really Cirisme posting under another identity.

[Solly]

I don't think Cir has got the library that Arminian has here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?action=showthread&postid=164472#post164472)

[GrayPilgrim]

Hey! How'd you get into my apartmetn with your camera? :kong:

[Jaltus]

Your apartment? There was nothing on the floor! No way it could be yours!

[GrayPilgrim]

The boss did a little cleaning ahead of time

[Jaltus]

Ahhh, gotcha.

You were in the shower, I take it?

[Jaltus]

Bump

[Em7add11]

Here we go.

[Jaltus]

I think he is really a she.

[Arminian]

:huh: