Revelation On Only Begotten Word Of God

[Squeakybro]

THE ONLY BEGOTTEN WORD=(HE)(HE IS A SPIRITUAL TITLE OF AUTHORITY) THE ONLY BEGOTTEN WORD(HE) CAME THROUGH THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD (JESUS)
John 1:17-18
17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
John 12:49-50
49 "For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.
50 "And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak."
Heb 8:6
6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.
John 17:17
17 "Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.
I Jn 1:1-3
1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, concerning the Word of life--
2 the life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness, and declare to you that eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us--
3 that which we have seen and heard we declare to you, that you also may have fellowship with us; and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ.
John 1:14
14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
John 1:1-11
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 He was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through him might believe.
8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9 That was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.
11 He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him.
Heb 4:12-13
12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.
2 Pet 1:19-21
19 And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts;
20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation,
21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
Mark 16:15-16
15 And He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 "He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.
John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
John 6:63
63 "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.
2 Cor 3:5-6
5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think of anything as being from ourselves, but our sufficiency is from God,
6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
Matt 6:22-24
22 "The lamp of the body is the eye. If therefore your eye is good, your whole body will be full of light.
23 "But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in you is darkness, how great is that darkness!
24 "No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.
2Pet 3:16-17
16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
17 You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked;
II Jn 1:9-11
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
Rev 22:18-19
18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
I Jn 1:1-5
1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, concerning the Word of life--
2 the life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness, and declare to you that eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us--
3 that which we have seen and heard we declare to you, that you also may have fellowship with us; and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ.
4 And these things we write to you that your joy may be full.
5 This is the message which we have heard from Him and declare to you, that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all.
I Jn 2:23-24
23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
24 Therefore let that abide in you which you heard from the beginning. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, you also will abide in the Son and in the Father.
John 10:8-9
8 "All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
9 "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
(NKJ)
The Word of God is the power by which all things in heaven and earth submit. The Word came forth from God for all to receive this power. And the power was always given through a mediator. God was the original mediator that created it. Then the Word was given to the Holy Spirit that distributes it from each individuals conscience(book of beliefs) in their mind. If and only if that individual has read the bible and put it in their beliefs(conscience). And when an individual has died to self by following the Holy Spirit(verses) and been born again. Then Jesus takes over the Word through the revelations of Jesus Christ, and rewrites their belief system(conscience). The Word of God is the power that all will have to answer to. This power is what justifies or condemns all and everything. God created it the power, and is willing to share it with those who will submit to it. Jesus was the first to submit to it on earth fully, and by that He was our example of how to receive it. When one totally submits to it the power(Word) the Word becomes alive in them. And by becoming alive in them we see the Word become flesh.
Note in verse 14 He the Word is full of grace and truth. And in verse 17 that grace and truth came through Jesus Christ
Jesus Christ is not the Word. Jesus Christ is the human that submitted to the Word as an example to us, to follow. Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God. That the only begotten Word of God came through.

2 Cor 10:3-5
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh.
4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds,
5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ,
(NKJ)

[luv1another]

squeaks,
have you considered getting your own website? that way you can post all 1500 of your revelations and you can ban people if you want to. everyone can find your wonderful revelations and they will be preserved for everyone around the world to see.
at the moment you are going to other peoples forums that they own and have bought and making enemies by throwing all these revelations at them.
don't you realise that peole who own these boards have taken their money and time to create these boards?
it would be like you buying a brand new house and then me coming along with a couple mates and our take away food walking in without asking and camping out in your lounge room for a few days without cleaning up our rubbish.
dont you think that would be rude? and obnoxious?
you do the exact same thing to all these forums you come to... you waltz in post these revelations all over the place and don't even bother to abide by the rules.
by getting your own site you might see why people get annoyed at you and you will have the pleasure of having all your revelations in one place and you can allow whoever you want to post.
isn't that a good idea?

[Warcraft3]

Thank you squeakybro.....I finally see the light.

We all need your revelations, for you are the only one who knows the truth.

Teach us your ways oh Holy, wise squeakybro...

Down through the centuries we have awaited the coming of the one.....the one who, in a single paragraph (after just quoting scripture we all have read anyway) ,could remove the blindness from our eyes..

All the disciples...all the church fathers....all the theologians....all the scholars.....all the evangelists....all the scientists....

All the many Christians here at TWEB who have spent counbtless hours praying, studying, ministering, discussing.....

We have all fallen so short.....so short of the great one they call "squeakybro"...

Thank you, thank you for these priceless revelations.....surely the Spirit is with you, and you alone, for none of us can compare to your wisdom, maturity, and spiritual depth....

I am truly giving thanks for our teacher "sueakybro"...


Hey Dee Dee.....

Can we rename TWEB "TROS" for The Revelations Of Squeakybro?

We could just delete all of the posts except for the ones that our great teacher squeakybro makes...

And then we could read and finally learn the truth.

I say we go for it. :smile:





Russ

[Squeakybro]

Humor and sarcasm are good camoflouge for ignorance. Dont give up your day job.

[luv1another]

I notice you ignored me yet again squeaky.
go and rent your own forum squeaks, then you can tell the world about your revelations and post anything you want... or are you to illiterate to be ab;e to make your own website?

[Squeakybro]

you said
I notice you ignored me yet again squeaky.

I said
Your right, you never have anything with substance in it. I was trying to be polite. But because your so pushy I guess I have to give you something.
Have you ever heard of an evangelist?
What that is, is someone that God has called to go from place to place. I am an evangelist.

2 Tim 4:5
5 But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.
(NKJ)

I guess if you dont like it, you could take it up with God.

[Xavier]

Please stop quoting scripture like you know what it is saying... It's rather insulting to the Holy Word of God.

[Squeakybro]

you said
Please stop quoting scripture like you know what it is saying...

I said
I do know.

[Xavier]

You think 2 Tim 4:5 was written to YOU???

I think Timothy might want some words with you... :hehe:

[Squeakybro]

You still dont get it. When I get a verse it is from the Holy Spirit. And when I share it with others He is doing the teaching not me.

[Xavier]

When I get a verse it is from the Holy Spirit. And when I share it with others He is doing the teaching not me.

The problem is that you believe that... What if its not the Holy Spirit feeding you scripture?

[Squeakybro]

you said
The problem is that you believe that... What if its not the Holy Spirit feeding you scripture?


I said
But according to the Word of God it has to be. But if you want to hang on to your doubt that is up to you.

Matt 14:31
31 And immediately Jesus stretched out His hand and caught him, and said to him, "O you of little faith, why did you doubt?"
(NKJ)

Matt 21:21-22
21 So Jesus answered and said to them, "Assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but also if you say to this mountain, 'Be removed and be cast into the sea,' it will be done.
22 "And whatever things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive."
(NKJ)

[Xavier]

But according to the Word of God it has to be. But if you want to hang on to your doubt that is up to you.

Then you're not reading very well, Satan can use scripture as well as God. Check Matthew 4. Satan can use Truth to his own ends.

I don't doubt the Word of God. I doubt your interpretation of it. since you hardenly refuse to dialoge on that interpretation, I can only assume it is because you cannot defend the veracity of your claims. We are called to The Truth, not our opinion about what that truth is.

Yours,
Xavier

[Squeakybro]

You want to discuss it. Everything satan quoted was from the old testament.

Matt 4:1-11

1 Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.
2 And when He had fasted forty days and forty nights, afterward He was hungry.
3 Now when the tempter came to Him, he said, "If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread."
4 But He answered and said, "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'"
5 Then the devil took Him up into the holy city, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple,
6 and said to Him, "If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down. For it is written: 'He shall give His angels charge over you,' and, 'In their hands they shall bear you up, lest you dash your foot against a stone.' "
7 Jesus said to him, "It is written again, 'You shall not tempt the Lord your God.'"
8 Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.
9 And he said to Him, "All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me."
10 Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.'"
11 Then the devil left Him, and behold, angels came and ministered to Him.
(NKJ)

[Xavier]

You want to discuss it. Everything satan quoted was from the old testament.

That's all that was around TO quote at the time... Are you denying that the OT is the Word of God?

[luv1another]

you know whats funny squeaks you don't even recognize your own revelations :rofl:

[Squeakybro]

you said
you know whats funny squeaks you don't even recognize your own revelations

I said
Is that suppose to be prophetic or is that just another one of your opinions?

[luv1another]

it's fact squeaks you didn't recognize the stuff you posted when someone else posted it to you... shows how much you pay attention and how much you have read your own so called revelations :lol:

[Squeakybro]

you said

The way to make yourself pleasing to others is to show that you care for them....The seeds of love can never grow but under the warm and genial influence of kind feelings and affectionate manners

I said
Now thats funny. And you do?

[luv1another]

actually squeaky I didn't say that at all :shrug:

[Xavier]

STILL waiting for a reply...

[Squeakybro]

you said
STILL waiting for a reply...


I said
I apologize if I missed your question. Ask it again and i'll try to answer it. I monitor alot of boards every day and some times I miss a question or two.

[Xavier]

You want to discuss it. Everything satan quoted was from the old testament.That's all that was around TO quote at the time... Are you denying that the OT is the Word of God?

It's from the last page of THIS thread... :shifty:

But, hey, everyone makes mistakes... :smile:

[Squeakybro]

you said
That's all that was around TO quote at the time... Are you denying that the OT is the Word of God?

I said
I have lots of reservations about the old testament. Guess where I got them?

2 Cor 3:14-15
14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ.
15 But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart.
(NKJ)

John 10:8-11
8 "All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
9 "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
10 "The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.
11 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep.
(NKJ)

[Xavier]

I have lots of reservations about the old testament. Guess where I got them?

No.. I cannot possiblely know why you think the OT is bad. There's absolutely NO basis in scripture for denying the OT, especially when its quoted by NT evangelists AND Christ hiimself.

[Squeakybro]

you said
No.. I cannot possiblely know why you think the OT is bad.

I said
Can you read? Take a look at the revelations I have already posted. One on the new testament, one on the old testament. And what Jesus said was this

John 10:8-11
8 "All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
9 "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
10 "The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.
11 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep.
(NKJ)

[Squeakybro]

you said
you know whats funny squeaks you don't even recognize your own revelations

I said
yes I do. In here they stick out like a elephant riding on a skate board. Or like a preacher in a comedy club.

[Squeakybro]

you said
you know whats funny squeaks you don't even recognize your own revelations

I said
I hope that makes sense to you, because it doesnt to me. Atleast one of us can get something out of it. Ofcourse I dont understand alot of the things you say. I'm not as carnal minded as you are.

[Squeakybro]

ABOUT THE OLD TESTAMENT

FROM THE NEW TESTAMENT

Heb 8:13

13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

2 Cor 3:14-15

14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ.

15 But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart.

Gal 2:21

21 "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain."

John 10:8-9

8 "All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.

9 "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.

1 Cor 10:1-12

1 Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea,

2 all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea,

3 all ate the same spiritual food,

4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ.

5 But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.

6 Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted.

7 And do not become idolaters as were some of them. As it is written, "The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play."

8 Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell;

9 nor let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents;

10 nor complain, as some of them also complained, and were destroyed by the destroyer.

11 Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, on whom the ends of the ages have come.

12 Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall.

Rom 13:8

8 Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law.

John 6:63

63 "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.

John 4:23-24

23 "But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.

24 "God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."

John 17:17

17 "Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.

John 3:34

34 "For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure.

John 3:33

33 "He who has received His testimony has certified that God is true.

John 3:35-36

35 "The Father loves the Son, and has given all things into His hand.

36 "He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."

Rom 8:1-2

1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.

Rom 8:3-8

3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh,

4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.

6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.

8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

John 14:26

26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

Gal 2:19-21

19 "For I through the law died to the law that I might live to God.

20 "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.

21 "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain."

Gal 3:24-25

24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.

Gal 5:1-5

1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.

2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.

3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.

4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.

5 For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.

Gal 4:21

21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law?

Rom 7:4-6

4 Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another-- to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God.

5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death.

6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.

Rom 13:10

10 Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

1 Pet 2:19-21

19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.

20 For what credit is it if, when you are beaten for your faults, you take it patiently? But when you do good and suffer, if you take it patiently, this is commendable before God.

21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:

II Jn 1:9-11

9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.

10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;

11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.

John 1:17

17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

(NKJ)

xxx Jesus wants everyone who is going to be a christian to understand that the new covenant(testament) is just that new. That you cant go back and keep any part of the old testament that Jesus hasnt brought over to the new testament. Jesus new what to bring over man doesnt. But the old testament has to be obsolete to you in order for you to get the fullness of the new testament. 11John 1-9 is very specific if you dont abide(live) in the new testament you dont have the real God. There IS a veil over the old testament that remains to THIS day.

If Jesus were in the old testament this verse could only be meant for God and the angels.

John 10:8-9

8 "All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.

9 "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.

[Crow]

squeaks,
have you considered getting your own website? that way you can post all 1500 of your revelations and you can ban people if you want to. everyone can find your wonderful revelations and they will be preserved for everyone around the world to see.
at the moment you are going to other peoples forums that they own and have bought and making enemies by throwing all these revelations at them.
don't you realise that peole who own these boards have taken their money and time to create these boards?
it would be like you buying a brand new house and then me coming along with a couple mates and our take away food walking in without asking and camping out in your lounge room for a few days without cleaning up our rubbish.
dont you think that would be rude? and obnoxious?
you do the exact same thing to all these forums you come to... you waltz in post these revelations all over the place and don't even bother to abide by the rules.
by getting your own site you might see why people get annoyed at you and you will have the pleasure of having all your revelations in one place and you can allow whoever you want to post.
isn't that a good idea?

Hey, that's a great idea! Here, squeaks, you can get your own website and jam it chock full of revelations. (http://members.freewebs.com/)

[Squeakybro]

To bad your not as interrested in knowing the truth about the Word of God.

[Sparko]

To bad your not as interrested in knowing the truth about the Word of God.

no. the problem is that we DO know the word of God, and you are NOT it.

you are just one more false teacher. and a wacky one at that.

[Squeakybro]

Oh your the one that keeps moving my revelations all over the place. They do make you nervous I see. What do you want me to do with all them private messages you send me?

[Sparko]

Oh your the one that keeps moving my revelations all over the place. They do make you nervous I see. What do you want me to do with all them private messages you send me?

they are not private messages I am sending you. they are moderation notices for the violations you keep committing.

Keep your "revelations" in unorthodox theology where they belong. And don't start new threads on "revelations" that you have already started in the past.

Other than that, have fun posting your nonsense to your heart's content.

If you wish to continue to discuss your moderation, send me a private message or start a thread in the locker room. don't do it here.

[Armor of God]

ABOUT THE OLD TESTAMENT

FROM THE NEW TESTAMENT

Heb 8:13

13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

2 Cor 3:14-15

14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ.

15 But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart.

Gal 2:21

21 "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain."

John 10:8-9

8 "All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.

9 "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.

1 Cor 10:1-12

1 Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea,

2 all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea,

3 all ate the same spiritual food,

4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ.

5 But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.

6 Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted.

7 And do not become idolaters as were some of them. As it is written, "The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play."

8 Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell;

9 nor let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents;

10 nor complain, as some of them also complained, and were destroyed by the destroyer.

11 Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, on whom the ends of the ages have come.

12 Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall.

Rom 13:8

8 Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law.

John 6:63

63 "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.

John 4:23-24

23 "But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.

24 "God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."

John 17:17

17 "Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.

John 3:34

34 "For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure.

John 3:33

33 "He who has received His testimony has certified that God is true.

John 3:35-36

35 "The Father loves the Son, and has given all things into His hand.

36 "He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."

Rom 8:1-2

1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.

Rom 8:3-8

3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh,

4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.

6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.

8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

John 14:26

26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

Gal 2:19-21

19 "For I through the law died to the law that I might live to God.

20 "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.

21 "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain."

Gal 3:24-25

24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.

Gal 5:1-5

1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.

2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.

3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.

4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.

5 For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.

Gal 4:21

21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law?

Rom 7:4-6

4 Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another-- to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God.

5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death.

6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.

Rom 13:10

10 Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

1 Pet 2:19-21

19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.

20 For what credit is it if, when you are beaten for your faults, you take it patiently? But when you do good and suffer, if you take it patiently, this is commendable before God.

21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:

II Jn 1:9-11

9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.

10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;

11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.

John 1:17

17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

(NKJ)

xxx Jesus wants everyone who is going to be a christian to understand that the new covenant(testament) is just that new. That you cant go back and keep any part of the old testament that Jesus hasnt brought over to the new testament. Jesus new what to bring over man doesnt. But the old testament has to be obsolete to you in order for you to get the fullness of the new testament. 11John 1-9 is very specific if you dont abide(live) in the new testament you dont have the real God. There IS a veil over the old testament that remains to THIS day.

If Jesus were in the old testament this verse could only be meant for God and the angels.

John 10:8-9

8 "All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.

9 "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.


Guess I'm missing out on why any of this would cause "reservations" regarding the OT. Reservations regarding your "revelations" on the other hand...

[Squeakybro]

Guess I'm missing out on why any of this would cause "reservations" regarding the OT. Reservations regarding your "revelations" on the other hand...
I'm thinking either you dont know the Word of God, or you didnt read the revelation. But in short it says if you keep any part of the old testament that isnt already written in the new testament you have fallen from grace.

[Armor of God]

I'm thinking either you dont know the Word of God, or you didnt read the revelation. But in short it says if you keep any part of the old testament that isnt already written in the new testament you have fallen from grace.
Xavier's original question regarding the OT was:

"Are you denying that the OT is the Word of God?"

your response?

"I have lots of reservations about the old testament. Guess where I got them?"

Since in your estimation we don't know the Word, can we get a straight anwer for once, instead of a bunch of verses pulled out of context? Do you deny that the OT is Scripture, the very Word of God? It's a pretty simple question...yes or no. No essay, no multiple-choice with "none of the above" to muddy things up...pretty straight forward.

[Squeakybro]

Depends on how you define scripture. The word scripture only shows up one time in the old testament and it refers to the future. The word scriptures doesnt show up at all. Now God says that there is a veil over the old testament that remains to this day. Do you believe God? Why hold onto something your not allowed to understand.

2 Cor 3:14-15
14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ.
15 But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart.
(NKJ)

[Armor of God]

My original question:
Since in your estimation we don't know the Word, can we get a straight anwer for once, instead of a bunch of verses pulled out of context? Do you deny that the OT is Scripture, the very Word of God? It's a pretty simple question...yes or no. No essay, no multiple-choice with "none of the above" to muddy things up...pretty straight forward.
Your response:
"Blah Blah Blah"

Again, it was a very simple question. But to clearly define for you how I define what Scripture constiutes, I'll use some examples of it:

16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,
17 that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.

I wonder...was Tim just referring to the few epsitles and Gospels that may have been around by his time, or is it more likely that he was referring to the teachings of the OT, which would have been what he was raised with?

Check the notations in your Bible. There are constant cross references listed at the bottom or in the margins, and there are many times that Jesus makes a statement like this one in Luke:

"For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in me: 'And he was numbered with the transgressors.' For what is written about me has its fulfillment." [empahsis mine]

A quick cross reference yields a comparison with Isaiah:
Therefore I will divide him a portion with the many, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong, because he poured out his soul to death and was numbered with the transgressors; yet he bore the sin of many, and makes intercession for the transgressors. [emphasis mine]

This is one of many examples of Jesus and others referring back to OT writings, which they obviously included as fulfilled, inspired, Scripture.

So, one more time...Do you deny that the OT is Scripture, the very Word of God?

[Squeakybro]

I hesitate because it is obvious where your at in your walk. And I dont think you can handle the meat understanding. If you will notice these revelations are totally verses witha small commentary at the bottom. These are the way the Holy Spirit teaches. Now either you can see the truth in them or you cant. But they are for those in the meat. I have seen to many intellectual idiots on this board to go into depth on the meat. But I am not allowed to share it if you cant handle it. And I have seen no proof that anyone in here can.

Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
(NKJ)
II Jn 1:7-11
7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8 Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward.
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
(NKJ)
John 10:8-9
8 "All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
9 "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
(NKJ)
John 1:17-18
17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
(NKJ)

[Warcraft3]

I hesitate because it is obvious where your at in your walk. And I dont think you can handle the meat understanding. If you will notice these revelations are totally verses witha small commentary at the bottom. These are the way the Holy Spirit teaches. Now either you can see the truth in them or you cant. But they are for those in the meat. I have seen to many intellectual idiots on this board to go into depth on the meat. But I am not allowed to share it if you cant handle it. And I have seen no proof that anyone in here can.


:rofl:
You cant handle the truth!!!


People who think they have discovered some great truth or are the "chosen" one always say garbage like this.....

Squeakybro, Freak, Biblewheel, Satori, John Martin....they all say crap like this.

:ahem:

Your "revelations" only reveal that you are a twit.

[Armor of God]

I hesitate because it is obvious where your at in your walk. And I dont think you can handle the meat understanding. If you will notice these revelations are totally verses witha small commentary at the bottom. These are the way the Holy Spirit teaches. Now either you can see the truth in them or you cant. But they are for those in the meat. I have seen to many intellectual idiots on this board to go into depth on the meat. But I am not allowed to share it if you cant handle it. And I have seen no proof that anyone in here can.
I've never understood this line of reasoning, on a message board no less. You have no idea where anyone is in their walk until you really know them and how they live their lives. So please, drop the sanctimonious diatribes. If you believe the Holy Spirit has revealed something to you, then lay it out on the table so that it may edify the Body.

Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
(NKJ)

I think you'd be surprised at how many people really do understand the difference between the old and new covenants. I don't think anyone here is trying to claim we are under the old covenant, or denying Christ, or whatever else you seem to think we are doing. However, the OT is still Scripture, and was referred to as such by Jesus and many NT writers. What is so confusing about that?

II Jn 1:7-11
7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8 Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward.
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
(NKJ)

Do you think by asking you if the OT is the Word of God we are somehow denying Christ? Most of us here (including myself) would definitely confess that Jesus came in the flesh, and that we are saved by faith through grace. So I'm not sure what you're getting at with this.

John 10:8-9
8 "All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
9 "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
(NKJ)
John 1:17-18
17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
(NKJ)
All of this is certainly true. So why can't you just answer the question? Do you think if you answer "yes," that the OT is Scripture (and actually agree with Jesus *gasp*) that we are going to suddenly believe we are under the Law again?

[Squeakybro]

you said
I've never understood this line of reasoning, on a message board no less. You have no idea where anyone is in their walk until you really know them and how they live their lives. So please, drop the sanctimonious diatribes. If you believe the Holy Spirit has revealed something to you, then lay it out on the table so that it may edify the Body.

I said
Well because you dont understand the reasoning in the meat is also the reason you dont understand how those in the meat can see where someone is at by the words that come out of their mouth. And it is the Holy Spirit that says not to.

Matt 7:6
6 "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.
(NKJ)
Phil 3:2-3
2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the mutilation!
3 For we are the circumcision, who worship God in the Spirit, rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh,
(NKJ)
Rev 22:14-15
14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.
(NKJ)

[Armor of God]

:huh: :sigh:

Ok, I give.

I just wanted to know why you contradict Christ. Just trying to gain some insight from you. Guess you're too "spiritual" for me.

Peace to you.

[Squeakybro]

Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. Do you know what the heart is??

Matt 12:34-37
34 "Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
35 "A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things.
36 "But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.
37 "For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."
(NKJ)