Buckyballs ROCK!

[truthman]

Only God could make something as complex, small and strong as a Buckyball. One thread of Buckyballs could support the weight of a vehicle.

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truthman

[kofh2u]

Only God could make something as complex, small and strong as a Buckyball. One thread of Buckyballs could support the weight of a vehicle.

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truthman

Wow o wow.

Fuller had a lot to say about the Universe. He firmly argued that one perfect geometrical solid shape, one "stone" explained everything we think about.

The builder of Universe used just one geometrical form to create all that exists in the material Universe. It is the same stone the builders cast aside, but in Christ, Fuller stone was manifest.

Fuller may have known, but fearfully, in his position as a head professor at UofP, steered clear of confessing to the world.

His candle has ben taken from him on that score. He revered, none the less, numbers seven andtwelve, and he preached that the 3 sides of the triangularly faced tetrahedron was the key to all knowledge.

A very interesting man, and a look at science that gives way to compatiblity with Christian understandings.

[geochron]

Only God could make something as complex, small and strong as a Buckyball. One thread of Buckyballs could support the weight of a vehicle.

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truthman

Only God could make something as flaky as talc.

Only God could make something as difficult to characterise as fubarite.

Now what?

[Sacrificial Ram]

Only God could make something as complex, small and strong as a Buckyball. One thread of Buckyballs could support the weight of a vehicle.

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truthman

Just clearing up one misconception. A 'threat' of buckyballs is called a 'nanotube'.

Nanotube production is starting to become economically feasible. Theoretically, a nanotube cable would be able to be strong enough for us to build a 'space elevator'.

http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/space_elevator_021120.html

[kofh2u]

Just clearing up one misconception. A 'threat' of buckyballs is called a 'nanotube'.

Nanotube production is starting to become economically feasible. Theoretically, a nanotube cable would be able to be strong enough for us to build a 'space elevator'.

http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/space_elevator_021120.html

Wow, again.

There are a few sleeper nano stocks companies already on the market. Thus will be bigger than the $7 per dhare they vost today!

A word to the wise young people.

[PhilA]

Is it just me or does 'Buckyballs' sound like a fast food restaurant.....

It does sound really interesting though. I would like guitar strings made of buckyballs. Then I would never snap them, they would never wear out, and I would never have to buy any more. Same goes for car tyres, clutch plates, in fact, most mechanical things.

[Ungoliant]

Am I the only one seeing the irony that buckyballs are created by man and have never been seen to be naturally created. Hence shouldn't secular humanists be shouting up and down that this is proof (to quote Bob Marley) a mighty god is a living man.

[Benster]

Am I the only one seeing the irony that buckyballs are created by man and have never been seen to be naturally created. Hence shouldn't secular humanists be shouting up and down that this is proof (to quote Bob Marley) a mighty god is a living man.
Unfortunately, I think Marley was talking about the everlasting Jesus in that quote! But I agree with your sentiment.

Why didn't God show us Buckyballs a long time ago, then we could all be riding that space elevator right now? What a joke: Buckies have been around forever...since geodesic domes. They are a tiny part of nanotechnology. And why are christians always talking about aliens and the space elevator, anyway? If they don't like it here, they're welcome to take the one-shot-to-the-head elevator to the heavens. Don't wait for us to invent you a space buggy.

[truthman]

may I remind everyone that this is a Theist only forum

truthman

[kofh2u]

Am I the only one seeing the irony that buckyballs are created by man and have never been seen to be naturally created. Hence shouldn't secular humanists be shouting up and down that this is proof (to quote Bob Marley) a mighty god is a living man.


And on the seventh day, God rested,... but his creation of man, a living psyke', evolved on.

The image of the Creator, Universe, (as Buck Fuller called the Christian God), grew ever more analogous to the world external to it.

The schmata of this mind of man matured. It developed a mathematical one-to-one correspondence with the Creation.
By knowing the Creation, the Creator was revealed.

And, in the the short few, (twelve (12) thousand millennia of
years), a Seventh (7) Era of Geological Time begins.

The "Universe," (Bucky's God), ended its work of which it had made all living creatures; and it rested, (seemimgly), on this Seventh (7) Era from all its work which it had made.

But, in an on going complicity with Universe, the mind of man did not rest. The sons of this God-force UNIVERSE continued the work in genetic splicings, clonings, and nanochemisrty.

Like Father, in his image, like Sons.

[rogero]

To discuss Kofh2u's mystical ramblings, check out this (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39912) thread.

[geochron]

The "argument from Buckminsterfullerene" is just a special case of...

For each substance x.
For each property y.
"Only God could make something having exactly as much y as x"

(Hopes that the general statement will remove the need for any more posts such as the op.)

Since God has the general status of ultimate creator, buckminsterfullerene is no more impressive than any other thing he made.

[kofh2u]

The "argument from Buckminsterfullerene" is just a special case of...

For each substance x.
For each property y.
"Only God could make something having exactly as much y as x"

(Hopes that the general statement will remove the need for any more posts such as the op.)

Since God has the general status of ultimate creator, buckminsterfullerene is no more impressive than any other thing he made.


Your cup seems half full.

My cup of appreciation for the impressive beauty of God's complex and interrelated system of natural order runs over!

The majesty of the mathematical analogy between Fuller's insight of Universe as the biggest entity God could be and man's mind, capable of imaging this natural order to all things is enhanced by the unending insights, like C60 parlicles and quantum worlds, and such, at every turn.

[Jedidiah]

Do I see a skyhook on the horizon?

[kofh2u]

Do I see a skyhook on the horizon?


Hahaaa...
Sky hook....
Have you read any of Bucky;s books?

In a way, he has uncovered the "stone" that the builders forgot.

He did not relate his discovery to this "stone the builders of the Pyramid of Ghiza forgot about," ... but he did reason it out for us as "The One Thing That Explains Everything, Cosmography." (His book title)

Fuller did all the research to illustrate why the five "stones" (geometric solids) arevwhat the Jews called the Urim and Thummim.

[shunyadragon]

Only God could make something as complex, small and strong as a Buckyball. One thread of Buckyballs could support the weight of a vehicle.

http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=9348e609-0abe-421a-01ed-b99fd72fd3f6&TEMPLATEID=5991da4c-ac1f-02d8-0055-99a54930515e

truthman
Buckeyballs are quit simple. It is a ball shaped geometry of Carbon, for the same reason diamond are extremely hard. Both acquire their strength from the covalrnt C-C bond which becomes very strong when they are in a balenced matrix.

I do not think that complexity in nature or the nature of buckeyballs in anyway justifies the 'Only God' logic, as long as they follow natural laws. If buckeyballs were supernatural, then maybe some God made them.

[Tickle Me Goody]

Is it just me or does 'Buckyballs' sound like a fast food restaurant.....


I think that I once knew a bully with that name.

[Omega Red]

Only God could make something as complex, small and strong as a Buckyball. One thread of Buckyballs could support the weight of a vehicle.

http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=9348e609-0abe-421a-01ed-b99fd72fd3f6&TEMPLATEID=5991da4c-ac1f-02d8-0055-99a54930515e

truthman

If Harry Kroto saw this thread, he'd blow several gaskets. Unless Harry Kroto = God?

Inorganic nanotubes have an impressive resistance to shock, equivalent to 3 double decker buses landing on them with minor deformation of structure (Y.Q. Zhu et al. J. Am. Chem. Soc., 125, 1329-1333, 2003).

[shunyadragon]

I think that I once knew a bully with that name.
Actually it was a sixteen point buck with very big . . .

[kofh2u]

Buckeyballs are quit simple. It is a ball shaped geometry of Carbon, for the same reason diamond are extremely hard. Both acquire their strength from the covalrnt C-C bond which becomes very strong when they are in a balenced matrix.

I do not think that complexity in nature or the nature of buckeyballs in anyway justifies the 'Only God' logic, as long as they follow natural laws. If buckeyballs were supernatural, then maybe some God made them.



absolutely!
Our pray is for a rational, logical God whose works are coherent and n
understandable. Our hope is that our mind can understand the nature of his creation. We must have faith in that our mind has been created in such a manner that we can image his natural workings in our abstractions.

our God has endowed us with a capability to image the Reality that is Him, and by such neans, evolve, change with him, grow, adapt, and live eternally, as a species.