Who is Jesus to Muslims?

[D. Medvedev Fan]

What is the Islamic view of Jesus?

[Dolphan7]

Islam refers to Jesus as a Prophet of Allah, but not as great as the greatest Prophet, Mohamed.

[moonlight3]

Dolphin7 wrote:

“Islam refers to Jesus as a Prophet of Allah, but not as great as the greatest Prophet, Mohamed.”

Lets see then how Jesus and Mohammad are portrayed in the Koran:

1. Jesus was borne with no human seed, who else was like that? Adam, well, was created by God from mud. Jesus was a Spirit from God. Whereas Mohammad, was borne like all the rest of the human race, like you for example. Also, who else in the Koran is refered to as being a Spirit from God? So who is the greatest?

2. Jesus spoke when he was just borne, to defend his mother Mary against her accusers. Mohammad, grow up just like any body else, just like you. So who is the greatest?

3. Jesus himself created: He held mud and blow into it and it turned a bird. Who else in the Koran has created, prophet or otherwise? Is there any verse in Koran that Mohammad created? So who is greatest?



4. Jesus made many miracles, as per Koran. How many miracles did Mohammad make, as per the Koran?



5. Koran says that: Jesus was not crucified but it appeared to them as if he was. Many interpretations to this verse, depending on what the commentator want to convey. Well, here it is for you: He was not killed because how can they kill God, but they thought they triumphed over him, thinking they ended his mission being hanged on the Cross. But how can you kill God! It was an illusion as far as they were concerned, that is the meaning. There is nothing in the Koran that somebody else was crucified in his place, just attempts of interpretation by different commentators. Mohammad died by poisoning. So if we take the Koran verse about Jesus death, God saved him from his persecutors. Mohammad, he was left to die from poison, so who was greatest?

All the above is as per the Koran. So who is greatest as per the Koran?

[Dolphan7]

Dolphin7 wrote:

“Islam refers to Jesus as a Prophet of Allah, but not as great as the greatest Prophet, Mohamed.”

Lets see then how Jesus and Mohammad are portrayed in the Koran:

1. Jesus was borne with no human seed, who else was like that? Adam, well, was created by God from mud. Jesus was a Spirit from God. Whereas Mohammad, was borne like all the rest of the human race, like you for example. Also, who else in the Koran is refered to as being a Spirit from God? So who is the greatest?

2. Jesus spoke when he was just borne, to defend his mother Mary against her accusers. Mohammad, grow up just like any body else, just like you. So who is the greatest?

3. Jesus himself created: He held mud and blow into it and it turned a bird. Who else in the Koran has created, prophet or otherwise? Is there any verse in Koran that Mohammad created? So who is greatest?



4. Jesus made many miracles, as per Koran. How many miracles did Mohammad make, as per the Koran?



5. Koran says that: Jesus was not crucified but it appeared to them as if he was. Many interpretations to this verse, depending on what the commentator want to convey. Well, here it is for you: He was not killed because how can they kill God, but they thought they triumphed over him, thinking they ended his mission being hanged on the Cross. But how can you kill God! It was an illusion as far as they were concerned, that is the meaning. There is nothing in the Koran that somebody else was crucified in his place, just attempts of interpretation by different commentators. Mohammad died by poisoning. So if we take the Koran verse about Jesus death, God saved him from his persecutors. Mohammad, he was left to die from poison, so who was greatest?

All the above is as per the Koran. So who is greatest as per the Koran?
Are you saying that the Koran is saying that Jesus is greater than Mohamed? Or are you saying that Jesus is greater? I know that Jesus is God and therefore much more than Mohemed could ever dream, but that was not the posters original question. The Koran places Jesus as a prophet along with Mohamed, but Mohamed was the greater prophet.

[InChristAlways]

Are you saying that the Koran is saying that Jesus is greater than Mohamed? Or are you saying that Jesus is greater? I know that Jesus is God and therefore much more than Mohemed could ever dream, but that was not the posters original question. The Koran places Jesus as a prophet along with Mohamed, but Mohamed was the greater prophet.Why would muslims even create another prophet other than God's "precious cornerstone". Paul was sent to the nations after Christ died but he is not relegated as a great "prophet" but a "chosen vessel" as the apostles in the bible were "chosen vessles" by Christ.

Surely the muslims can read in the OT that there is only one "precious stone" prophecied by God, and because "blood" was needed to atone for sins of Israel, how could the sins of them (and the world) be atoned for if not by "blood" of the "precious cornerstone?
If Christ didn't die and resurrect, then our faith in Him(and the Bible) is in vain, as God showed us through faith in the "Name of Jesus" that we will also be raised and live eternally. The OT prophecies of course concern Israel and Judah, but they suffered the extreme penalty of WRATH for their failure to receive Him as God had the roman armies come and destroy the temple shortly after Jesus died.(and what a beutifull temple it must have been!!!) The Israelites fail to see the OT prophecies of Wrath as being against them(either because of Pride or misinterpretation of the scriptures). God bless.

Isaiah 28:14 Therefore hear the word of the LORD, you scornful men, Who rule this people who [are] in Jerusalem, 15 Because you have said, "We have made a covenant with death, And with Sheol we are in agreement. When the overflowing scourge passes through, It will not come to us, For we have made lies our refuge, And under falsehood we have hidden ourselves." 16 Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: "Behold, I lay in Zion a stone for a foundation, A tried stone, a precious cornerstone, a sure foundation; Whoever believes will not act hastily. 17 Also I will make justice the measuring line, And righteousness the plummet; The hail will sweep away the refuge of lies, And the waters will overflow the hiding place.

Even God's own "firstborn" people, the Israelites, do not believe Jesus was the full atonement of the sins through the "blood" of the "precious cornerstone". But they(and most christians) also fail to realize vengeance and wrath was to come upon them(the jews) for "rejecting the "stone". Have the muslims ever noticed the "missing temple" in Israel???

Luke 21:21 "Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. 22 "For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 "But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people(the jews). (read Isaiah 28:14 above)

romans 11:25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; 27 For this My covenant with them, When I take away their sins."(THis could only be done by BLOOD in the OT).


[i]Hebrew 13:"Now may the God of peace who brought up our Lord Jesus from the dead, that great Shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, make you complete in every good work to do His will, working in you what is well pleasing in His sight, through Jesus Christ, to whom be glory forever and ever. Amen."

[moonlight3]

Dolphan7

Sorry, can you rephrase your question, please

Can it be just one question at a time, please

[revivalfire]

Jesus to Muslims...I believe we are correct in saying He was a prophetm, to the Muslims anyway... however... It still doesn't explain the crucifixion nor the atonement for sins... Plus, the Quran talks about things that none of the authors were present to observe, as opposed to the Bible which was written by the observors of the times.

[Dolphan7]

Dolphan7

Sorry, can you rephrase your question, please

Can it be just one question at a time, please
Areyou saying that the Koran is saying that Jesus is greater than Mohamed?


Or are you saying that Jesus is greater?

[moonlight3]

Dolphan7

Yes to Both questions